OLLIFFE family

[DaveHam9]

They are both from Ireland and probably cousins.

360/1860 OLLIFFE THOMAS - OLIFFE KATE SYDNEY * 17 May 1860

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 28 May 1860 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 17th May, by Special License, at St. James' Church, by the Rev. H. Morton, Mr. Thomas OLLIFFE, to Kate, third daughter of Mr. J. B. OLLIFFE, Surry Hills.


The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 21 December 1895 p.16
Funerals.
THE FRIENDS of the late Mr. THOMAS OLLIFFE are kindly invited to attend his Funeral THIS (Saturday) AFTERNOON ; to move from his late residence, No. 3 Little Bloomfield Street, Surry Hills, a quater to 3 o'clock, to St. Jude's Cemetery, Randwick. T. DIXON, Undertakers, 23 Oxford-street.

There are four cemeteries in Randwick area. No doubt with that one.


The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 1 August 1903 p.18
FUNERALS
OLLIFFE.-The Friends of Mrs. KATE OLLIFFE are respectfully invited to attend her Funeral, to leave 3 Little Bloomfield-street, Surry Hills, THIS DAY, at a quarter to 3 o'clock, for the Long Bay Cemetery.
CHARLES KINSELA, Funeral Director.


Long Bay Cemetery = St. Jude's CofE or Randwick General Cemetery

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 12 October 1881 p.1
Deaths.
OLLIFFE.-October 8, at his residence, Little Bloomfield-street, Surry Hills, John Olliffe, sen., aged 71 years. May his soul rest in peace.

Can't find a Funeral notice.

Don't know where John is buried. Wife Ellen was buried at Waverley.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 12 August 1885 p.16
Funerals.
THE FRIENDS of the late Mrs. ELLEN OLLIFFE are respectfully invited to attend her Funeral, on THURSDAY AFTERNOON, to move from her late residence, No. 5 Little Bloomfield-st., Surry Hills, at half-past 2 o'clock, for the Waverley Cemetery. T. DIXON, Undertaker, 25 Oxford-street.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 18 July 1893 p.1
Deaths.
OLLIFFE.-July 14, at her residence, 6 Francis-street, Hyde Park, Ann, relict of the late Joseph Benjamin Olliffe, in her 87th year.

Can't find a Funeral notice in Trove.

 

[DaveHam9]

The NSW Parliament site in relation to Joseph Benjamin OLLIFFE, Jnr. born 1835 - died 1930:

"Son of Joseph Benjamin, innkeeper, and Ann Osborne. Baptised at Saints Mary & Ann Shandon Roman Catholic Church, Cork, Ireland.

J B married Ann and John OLLIFFE married Ellen OSBORNE in Ireland.

Not yet proved that J B and John are brothers and that Ann and Ellen are sisters.

Arrival of both families not yet found. Before 17 May 1860 marriage of Thomas & Kate in Sydney.

 

[DaveHam9]

Electoral Roll
Joseph Benjamin Olliffe
Year Range: 1842-1843
District: Sydney
Ward: Cook
[Image has the property as a shop. Bourke street, Surry Hills]


1841 census
OLLIFFE Joseph B 200 Bourke Street, Surry Hills, Parish Alexandria, County Cumberland, District Sydney [X950] 45 2223

John not listed.


So J B arrived 1835 - 1841.

 

[horse]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 12 October 1881 p.1
Deaths.
OLLIFFE.-October 8, at his residence, Little Bloomfield-street, Surry Hills, John Olliffe, sen., aged 71 years. May his soul rest in peace.

Can't find a Funeral notice.

Don't know where John is buried. Wife Ellen was buried at Waverley.

RC, Dave?..

Geoff

 

[horse]

RC, Dave?..

It's OK, Dave.. got the date now..

John Olliffe
Age: 71
Death Date: 8 Oct 1881
Burial Place: Sydney
Cemetery: Waverley
Section: 12 Ordinary
Row: 5
Denomination: Catholic

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That is a bit curious.

Ellen 1885 at Waverley - also RC ?

Other family members are at St. Jude's which is CofE.


fulltext:"John olliffe"~0 returns no hits in Trove 1840 - 1850.

Earliest for John in Trove is 16 Feb 1856 in Sydney re Election committee.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1170/1855 V18551170 43B PASFIELD WILLIAM H - OLLIFFE ELLEN - MF

10 Jan 1856 Christ Church CofE

Daughter of John & Ellen so another ref to 1856 for John.

John not in 1841 census and earliest in Trove 1856.

Looks as though the families did not arrive together. Also seems one is more strictly RC than the other.

 

[Bootzy]

Australian Star Tue 11 Sept 1906
PASFIELD – September 10 at her late residence Water Reserve, Botany, Ellen Pasfield age 73 years peace perfect peace. Buried 12 Sept at Botany Cemetery.
Death - PASFIELD ELLEN 10912/1906 JOHN – ELLEN – WATERLOO
SMH Wed 12 Sept 1906
PASFIELD.—The Friends of Messrs. WILLIAM, GEORGE, JAMES, SAMUEL, and ARTHUR PASFIELD; also of Mr. and Mrs. A, NORRIS are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved MOTHER, Mrs. Ellen Pasfield, which will leave her late residence, Water Reserve,, Botany, THIS AFTERNOON, at 2.30, for Botany- Cemetery. J. MEDCALF, Undertaker. Redfern,

William Hamilton Pasfield died 1891.

Children of William & Ellen
PASFIELD WILLIAM O 1428/1856 WILLIAM H- ELLEN –SYDNEY – died 1941 Canterbury (middle name = Alliffe)

PASFIELD ADA Ellen 1283/1859 WILLIAM – ELLEN –SYDNEY – died 1937 Canterbury

PASFIELD CLARA Francis 3824/1862 WILLIAM – ELLEN -ST GEORGE – died 1939 Ryde

PASFIELD GEORGE Alfred 4345/1866 WILLIAM H – ELLEN - ST GEORGE – died 1939 Ashfield

PASFIELD JAMES Albert 3746/1868 WILLIAM H – ELLEN – REDFERN – died 1946 Ashfield

PASFIELD BLANCHE Eliza 4025/1870 WILLIAM H – ELLEN – REDFERN – m Albert E C Norris 1900 Sydney - died 1944 Canterbury.

PASFIELD SAMUEL HENRY 5397/1873 WILLIAM HAMILTON – ELLEN – WATERLOO – died 1953 Orange

PASFIELD ARTHUR JOHN 5517/1875 WILLIAM H – ELLEN – WATERLOO – died 1923 Marrickville

Death of son – not Births - PASFIELD THOMAS 2591/1873 WILLIAM – ELLEN – WATERLOO


regards Val

 

[horse]

1841 census
OLLIFFE Joseph B 200 Bourke Street, Surry Hills, Parish Alexandria, County Cumberland, District Sydney [X950] 45 2223
John not listed.
So J B arrived 1835 - 1841.

Noticed this on Anc.

NZ Births:
Henry Oliffe
Birth Date: 1849
Registration Place: New Zealand
Folio Number: 199

There is this in the NZ BMD:
1849/1729
Oliffe Henry
Parents = Ellen & John

If same John and Ellen, probably still in NZ until at least 1849. Can't see an arrival yet.

Geoff

 

[horse]

There are some trees, vary in info in the early years, none appear to have pinned down an arrival

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

ESMP = Botany Cemetery

Ellen Pasfield 12/10/1906 Burial AA2 - Anglican FM A2, Position 32

Thomas, son of John & Ellen buried St. Judes CofE and his sister Ellen also buried CofE.

But John buried RC Waverley. Three different cemeteries.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

One ref to a John Oliffe in NZ papers - 1847.

There are more hits but the name is actually Cliffe in those articles.


I can't find any Oliffe/Olliffe deaths 1840 - 1940 in NZ index so did Henry die in Australia?

Most arrivals from NZ landed in Victoria.

Death OLLIFFE HENRY 8772/1912 JOHN ELLEN SYDNEY

OLLIFFE Henry (Harry) Death notice 02AUG1912 Death late of Pyrmont Sydney Morning Herald 03AUG1912

Married to a Sarah. Clarence and Richmond River papers please copy. Northern NSW.

Buried CofE Waverley. I hope the cemetery record has his age.

Back in a few hours.

 

[Bootzy]

Found this:

OLLIFFE JOSEPH B 2070/1878 AGE 74 YEARS DIED SYDNEY – SYDNEY = b about 1804

SMH – Wed 20 Nov 1878
OLLIFFE.—November 19, after a protracted illness, which he bore with Christian fortitude, at his residence, Francis-street, Sydney, Mr. Joseph Benjamin Olliffe, senr., aged 74 years.

SMH Thu 21 Nov 1878
THE FRIENDS of the Into Mr. J. B. OLLIFFE, Sen., are respectfully informed his Funeral takes place THIS DAY at 2.50 p.m.. from his late residence, No. 6, Francis-street, to St. Jude's Church, Randwick.


Death of his son.. also Joseph Benjamin Olliffe = b 1835 Cork
OLLIFFE JOSEPH B 12193/1930 JOSEPH B – ANN – RANDWICK

SMH Mon 8 Sept 1930
MR. J. B. OLLIFFE.
Mr. Joseph Benjamin Ollliffe, who was connected with Tattersall's Club for many years, and who was a member of the Legislative Assembly for a period, died at his residence, Wallangra, Rae-street, Randwick, on Saturday, at the age of 95 years. Bom in Cork, Ireland, Mr. Olliffe came to Australia with his parents at the age of six months. In his early business career he worked in a general store in Maitland, and then came to Sydney. Mr. Olliffe was one of the founders of Tattersall's Club. After being a member for four years he was chairman for 11 years, and then became secretary. He resigned in 1920 after 25 years' service. A staunch Freetrader, Mr. Olliffe successfully contested the South Sydney seat in the Legislative Assembly in 1882, and remained until the dissolution in 1887, when he did not seek re-election. Mrs. Olliffe died 15 years ago. There are five sons and three daughters. A Requiem Mass will be held at the Church of Our Lady of the Sacred Heart at 9 o'clock this morning, and the funeral will move to the Waverley Cemetery at a quarter to 10 o'clock.

Joseph Benjamin son of Joseph & Ann b 1835 Cork – 1930 married Elizabeth Catherine Callaghan 1861 Maitland (she died 1915) had son Joseph B b 1862 – died 1939 Randwick buried Waverley Catholic Cemetery 3 Jan 1939 - she and Joseph had 12 children.

Elizabeth died 22nd March 1915 “Wallangra” Rae st Randwick age 74 – Evening News Thu 25 March 1915 – buried Waverley Catholic section 17 vaults row 13 – wife of Joseph B Olliffe on Headstone - parents John & Elizabeth C – – born 1839 Maitland - reg no: 1108

 

[horse]

I haven't figured this out yet, but...

Tasmania, Australia, Passenger Arrivals, 1829-1957
Johbn Oliffe [sic]
Arrival Port: Hobart
Date: 5 Jan 1837
Departure Port: London
Departure Date: 29 Aug 1836
Ship: Fairlie

The image is poor.. The TAS site has this..

Oliffe, John
Record Type: Departures
Departure date: 4 Feb 1837
Departure port: Hobart
Ship: Fairlie
Bound to: Sydney
Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:591623
Resource MB2/43/1

Also has: Ann, Mary, Frances, Ellen & Joseph same date/ship.

Geoff

 

[horse]

This record has a slightly more legible image..

Tasmania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1834-1837, 1841-1887
J Oliffe
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1837
Place: Tasmania, Australia
Ship: Tairlie [sic]
[Image says; Steerage, wife and 3 children]

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

have you seen this Dave ?

http://www.kensmith.id.au/olliffe.htm

been thinking re arrival in 1830's.. wasn't Joseph sen a engineer and worked for steamship co ? - wonder if he obtain passage out for his family by working for Steamship.. so would be crew records..
Pandora

wonder if this could be them heading to NZ..
Sydney Herald Mon 23 Sept 1839
For New Zealand, same day, the schooner – “Currency Lass”, Captain Bennett, with sundries. Passengers-Mr. Joabut, Mr. Bloachard, Mr. Sutton, Mr. Jones, Mr. Roy, Mr. Crobar, Mr. Scott, Mr. Still, Mr. King, Mr. Milne, Mr. J.Jones, Mr. O'Liffe, wife and two children.

hmm...NSW Gov Gaz Wed 10 July 1839 has List of Runaways apprehended during last week and has Joseph B Oliffe, Sydney on it….

 

[horse]

have you seen this Dave ?

http://www.kensmith.id.au/olliffe.htm

I wonder if that squashes the VDL theory then, I can't see a Frances

There were only 3 children on the outward trip from VLD, so one must have d. there...

Nice find though, Val..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

A summary.

J B & Ann - JB junior b. Cork abt 1835 - arrived age 6 mo.

Daughter Kate by age at death born abt 1840 so not b. Ireland ?

J B sen on 1841 NSW census.

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John & Ellen

Dau Ellen b. abt 1833 Ireland. Other children b. Ireland.

Son Thomas b. abt 1840 where?

Spent some time in NZ and Henry b. 1849.

Earliest ref in NSW for family is 1855.

Dave

PS. I think that is right now.