PACKER family in Gloucestershire

[DaveHam9]

Births Jun Qtr 1869 - Clifton 6a 131
PACKER, Thomas Edward
mmn COTTRELL

Looking for the marriage and to trace that Thomas.

If he can be found in 1891 English census then not the one I'm after.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Dave – Have Thomas Edward Parker born to Charles Packer & Harriett COTTRELL and Thomas’s marriage on England Select Marriages:

Name: Thomas Edward Packer
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1869
Marriage Date: 17 Jan 1895
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Charles Packer
Spouse: Arabella Ellen Turner also age 26 – her father = George Turner
FHL Film Number: 1849410
Reference ID: cn37 V.S p.19

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Thanks Val.

That one is ruled out then.

One more to find in England after 1891 to rule him out as well.

Births Jun Qtr 1869 - Stow on the Wold
PACKER, Thomas Henry
mmn DAY

Dave

 

[stockpot]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Charles Packer

Marriage date 05 Jul 1848

Marriage place Bedminster

Father's name Charles Packer

Spouse's name Harriett Cotrell

Spouse's father's name Samuel Cotrell

Residence Bedminster, Somerset, England

Ref :- Bedminster VII P63

Elaine EDIT, SORRY, I SEE YOU HAVE ALREADY RULED HIM OUT!

 

[Bootzy]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

this the one ??

Name: Thomas Packer
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Gertrude Day
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 342

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Thanks Elaine.

I'm trying to trace an elusive Hedley/Thomas/Edward/Edley PACKER born Gloucester 1869 - 1873 - no parents on his death reg in NSW.

Married 26 Mar 1891 in NSW so any in England after that date are ruled out.

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

found this...
6515/1891 PACKER EDLEY G to WILLIAMS EMILY – PARRAMATTA

NSW St John’s Parramatta Marriages

Name: Hedley Thomas Packer
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 26 Mar 1891
Marriage Place: Parramatta, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Charles Packer
Mother: Ellen Hook
Spouse: Emily Williams
Spouse Age: 17
Spouse Father: Isaac Williams
Spouse Mother: Eliza Gordon

2 Baptisms on Anc..for those parents..

16 May 1869 Taynton Gloucestershire

6 Jan 1868 – Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Thanks Val.

That had not been found last time around so progress.

Name varies on all the children's birth reg

Birth 36532/1912 PACKER EVELYN E - HEDLEY T - EMILY - WATERLOO * 9 Aug 1912

Evelyn's birth cert. has her father as Hedley Thomas, a painter, 40 b. Glouc., England.

Age at death points to 1870 so we have 1869 - 1871 range.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Curious Isaac v. Abraham

Marriage 3167/1869 WILLIAMS ABRAHAM - GORDON ELIZA - PARRAMATTA * 27 Apr 1869

Birth 12858/1874 WILLIAMS EMILY - ABRAHAM - ELIZA - LIVERPOOL * 21 May 1874

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Marriages Jun Qtr 1864
Hook Ellen Westbury S 6a 381
Packer Charles Westbury. S 6a 381

1871
Thomas Packer
Event Place Elton, Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England
Enumeration District 1
Birthplace Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/2604/0026
Charles Packer Head M 27 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Ellen Packer Wife F 28 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Edwin Packer Son M 4 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Thomas Packer Son M 3 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Mary Packer Daughter F 6 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

There is another Charles & Ellen with a son Thomas in 1871.

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

1881
Charles Packer
Event Place Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England
Registration District Westbury On Severn
Residence Note Elton Lane
Occupation Iron Miner
Birthplace Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England
Page Number 17
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2525/13
Charles Packer Head M 38 Westbury On Severn
Ellen Packer Wife F 39 Westbury On Severn
Edwin Packer Son M 14 Westbury On Severn
Thomas Packer Son M 13 Westbury On Severn
Fredrick J Bickerton Boarder M 2 Newnham

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Births Mar Qtr 1868
Packer Thomas Westbury 6a 235
mmn = HOOK

Births Mar Qtr 1865
PACKER Mary Caroline Westbury S. 6a 221
mmn = HOOK

Births Jun Qtr 1866
Packer Edwin Westbury S 6a 222
mmn = HOOK

 

[Ellie7]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Tree on Ancestry.
Thomas Hedley Packer

1868–1937
Birth 1868 • Newent, Gloucestershire, England
Death 09 02 1937 • Newtown NSW Austraia

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: PACKER - COTTRELL marriage Gloucester/Somerset

Thanks Ellie.

Still looking for details of family after 1881. I've not found the family yet in 1891. FS limits the search options for that year making it harder to find what you are looking for.

Was he the only one to come to Australia? Arrival not yet found.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1891
County Gloucestershire
Parish Westbury On Severn
Ecclesiastical Parish WESTBURY ON SEVERN
Registration District Westbury On Severn
Residence Note Elton Road
Marital Status Married
Occupation Chair Woman
Page Number 13
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 2007/ 10
Ellen Packer Head F 48 Gloucestershire
Fredrick J Bickerton Lodger M 12 Gloucestershire

Where is Charles? England or Australia?

 

[DaveHam9]

Edwin in still in England.

1891
Edwin Packer
County Gloucestershire
Parish Westbury On Severn
Ecclesiastical Parish WESTBURY ON SEVERN
Registration District Westbury On Severn
Residence Note Elton Road
Marital Status Married
Occupation Iron Miner
Birthplace Gloucestershire, England
Page Number 13
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 2007/ 10
Edwin Packer Head M 24 Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ann Packer Wife F 21 Gloucestershire, England
Fred Middlecote Nephew M 0 London, England

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Dec Qtr 1843
Packer Charles Westbury on S 11 470 mmn BALDWIN


Marriages Sep Qtr 1841
Packer Daniel Westbury on Severn 11 527
BALDWIN Eliza Westbury on S 11 527

No death in NSW for a Charles with those parents.

Looks like Thomas was the only one to leave England 1881 - 1891.

 

[DaveHam9]

This fits with age 17 when she married ...

Birth 12858/1874 WILLIAMS EMILY - ABRAHAM - ELIZA - LIVERPOOL * 21 May 1874

... but it's Abraham not Isaac.

 

[Ladybird1300]

Death and burial:

Name: Charles Packer
Birth Year: abt 1844
Death Age: 62
Burial Date: 12 Mar 1906
Parish: Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England

Address on the original is Elton Westbury on Severn.

Amanda

 

[Ladybird1300]

1901;

Name: Charles Packer
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ellen Packer
Birth Place: Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Sub-registration district: Newnham
Piece: 2417
Folio: 29
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 36
Charles Packer 55
Ellen Packer 56
Albert Packer 22

Address on the original: 6 Elton Cottages Westbury on Severn.

And he is an Ag Lab



Amanda