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Parish Records general question

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Just a quick general query/ question regarding Parish records for England, the ones that i have found seem to end early 1800's to 1812....and of course i need just after these dates but before 1837... Where do you find info within these dates....
 

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Which Parish are you looking at?? Many parishes have records for these dates online.


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The general area I am looking withiin is Yorkshire West Riding, Leeds and its surrounds,.. Just seems that most of them stop around 1812... so was just wonder where i might go to find dates between 1812 - 1837....

Would I need to sign up to one of the commercial Genealogy sites....
 

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Tell us who you are looking for and we will see what we can do.

Have you looked on any of the commercial sites as most are free to search, you only pay to get the details.

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Tell us who you are looking for and we will see what we can do.

Have you looked on any of the commercial sites as most are free to search, you only pay to get the details.

Emeltee
You guys have already done more than enough research for me with my Harotn/Airton.Ayrton's ....

Twas just a general question, about the registers as the ones I have seen or purchased all end around 1812... so was curious as to why the gap .... in years...
 

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I must agree that a lot of Parish register records stop at 1812. I can understand them possibly stopping in 1837 when Civil Registration started but as to why 1812 I don't know.

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I must agree that a lot of Parish register records stop at 1812. I can understand them possibly stopping in 1837 when Civil Registration started but as to why 1812 I don't know.

Emeltee
Thanks Emeltee...

Thought I was missing something.... ie. something happening in that period and maybe that was why they stopped recording them or something like that....
 

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Just reading this little bit of info, tells me things were just in a bad state of affairs.... Probaby alot more in it .... religion, politics etc... but gives me a better idea....

The increasingly poor state of English parish registration led to numerous attempts to shore up the system in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. Lord Harwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 attempted to prevent 'clandestine' marriages by imposing a standard form of entry for marriages, which had to be signed by both parties to the marriage and witnesses. Additionally, except in the case of Jews and Quakers, legal marriages had to be carried out according to the rites of the Church of England. Sir George Rose's Parochial Registers Act of 1812 laid down that all events had to be entered on standard entries in bound volumes. It also declared that the church registers of Nonconformists were not admissible in court as evidence of births, marriages and deaths. Only those maintained by the clergy of the Church of England could be presented in court as legal documents. This caused considerable hardship for Nonconformists (Cullen; Glass, 118–19; Higgs, 2004, 3).

A number of proposals were presented to Parliament to set up centralised registries for recording vital events in the 1820s but none came to fruition (Higgs, 2004, 10–11]. Eventually, increasing concern that the poor registration of baptisms, marriages and burials undermined property rights, by making it difficult to establish lines of descent, coupled with the complaints of Nonconformists, led to the establishment in 1833 of a Select Committee on Parochial Registration. This took evidence on the state of the parochial system of registration, and made proposals that were eventually incorporated into the 1836 Registration and Marriage Acts. These, in turn, established the modern system of civil registration, and set up the General Register Office to administer it (Cullen; Higgs, 1996; Higgs, 2004, 1–22; Report of the select committee … on the general state of parochial registries].



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There are baptism marriages and deaths for that period in West Yorkshire on Ancestry.
They must be different collections because they have West Yorkshire births marriages and deaths up till 1812.
The collections then go West Yorkshire Births and baptisms 1813-1910.
West Yorkshire Marriages and banns 1813-1935
West Yorkshire Deaths and Burials 1813 - 1985

This is the same for each county, so it depends on the collection or catalogue.


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There are baptism marriages and deaths for that period in West Yorkshire on Ancestry.
They must be different collections because they have West Yorkshire births marriages and deaths up till 1812.
The collections then go West Yorkshire Births and baptisms 1813-1910.
West Yorkshire Marriages and banns 1813-1935
West Yorkshire Deaths and Burials 1813 - 1985

This is the same for each county, so it depends on the collection or catalogue.


Amanda
Thanks Amanda,

Might just have to spend a penny and see :)
 

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As posted above, a standard form was issued to every parish in 1811/12 and all ceased using their existing format, which is why those up to that date have been placed in archives.

Parishes only recorded Baptisms, Burials and Marriages, even after that date, there was no requirement to record Births or Deaths, although some did, hence in 1837 when Registration commenced only the marriage records changed, when Church records started recording on copies of the actual marriage certificate, the existing record books for baptism and burials continued. These books held a lot of entries and small parishes took many years before the books were completed and found there way into archives.
 

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