Passenger Lists India to England

[eejay]

Hi Looking for a pasesenger list for a ship at sea 1874 sailing india to England. Where should I look??
I have a family returning to England and want to find who was on the ship. Victoria Gillingham was b. 8/10/1874 on board the ship. With Mother Catherine Gillingham (nee Keoling) and Victoria's sister Maud Gillingham b. 5th September in Rangoon India. I am missing anything on the father Robert Gillingham (10th Foot 2nd Batt) and the son (who is my ancestor) Alfred Henry Gillingham b.1868 in Trimulgherry India. TIA Ian

 

[gibbo]

I noticed the 2 sisters listed as orphans on the 1881 census. I couldn't find a uk death for their mother, did she die on the ship?

 

[gibbo]

Just for reference

1881 uk census
Name: Victoria Gillingham
Event Place: Prittlewell, Essex, England
Registration District: Rochford
Age: 6
Marital Status: Single
Marital Status (Original): Single
Occupation: Scholar
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birthplace: British Subject (Birth), At Sea
Relationship to Head of Household: Orphan
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1769/109
Affiliate Record Type: Household

Maud Gillingham Orphan Female 8 India
Victoria Gillingham Orphan Female 6 British Subject (Birth), At Sea
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[DaveHam9]

The majority of inward passenger lists from 1878 to 1960 and outward passenger lists from 1890 to 1960 have survived. There are very few records in The National Archives of passengers before 1878.

No hit on any of the three names.

 

[juliejtp]

A Robert Gillingham is listed on The familysearch site.

Marriage 1867 - Bangalore - Madras - India
Robert Gillingham - age 35 - father Alfred Gillingham
Wife - Catherine Keoling - age 15 - father William Keoling

Another Gillingham marriage, could be related. This one is on the fibis site.

Marriage 1860
John Gillingham
WIfe - Maria Bautteman

 

[gibbo]

Marriage
Name: Robert Gillingham
Event Date: 7 Feb 1867
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Bangalore, Madras, India
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1832
Father's Name: Alfred Gillingham
Spouse's Name: Catherine Keoling
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 15
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1852
Spouse's Father's Name: William Keoling

 

[gibbo]

Name: Agnes Louisa Gillinghan
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 27 Jul 1869
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Trimulgherry, Madras, India
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Jul 1869
Father's Name: Robert Gillinghan
Mother's Name: Catherine

Name: Edith Gillinghem
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 20 Nov 1870
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Trimulgherry, Madras, India
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1870
Father's Name: Robert Gillinghem
Mother's Name: Catherine

 

[eejay]

I noticed the 2 sisters listed as orphans on the 1881 census. I couldn't find a uk death for their mother, did she die on the ship?

Not been able to find a death for the mother or father.

 

[eejay]

Name: Agnes Louisa Gillinghan
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 27 Jul 1869
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Trimulgherry, Madras, India
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Jul 1869
Father's Name: Robert Gillinghan
Mother's Name: Catherine

Name: Edith Gillinghem
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 20 Nov 1870
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Trimulgherry, Madras, India
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1870
Father's Name: Robert Gillinghem
Mother's Name: Catherine

Very interesting as my direct relative and I believed the oldest boy Alfred was also born in Trimulgherry. 10th foot were in the area at this time before moving on to Rangoon

 

[eejay]

I noticed the 2 sisters listed as orphans on the 1881 census. I couldn't find a uk death for their mother, did she die on the ship?

Thanks I have this record and details from the Sisters of Nazareth

 

[eejay]

The majority of inward passenger lists from 1878 to 1960 and outward passenger lists from 1890 to 1960 have survived. There are very few records in The National Archives of passengers before 1878.

No hit on any of the three names.

Thanks so am probably not getting any further there then

 

[eejay]

Marriage
Name: Robert Gillingham
Event Date: 7 Feb 1867
Event Place: Madras, India
Event Place (Original): Bangalore, Madras, India
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1832
Father's Name: Alfred Gillingham
Spouse's Name: Catherine Keoling
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 15
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1852
Spouse's Father's Name: William Keoling

Thanks I do have this record

 

[juliejtp]

I’ve only ever used Familysearch online. Here’s a link to their catalogue. Hopefully it will take you to the Military in India.

 

[Ellie7]

Victoria Gillingham
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Kensington, London, England, United Kingdom
County: London, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity
Sub-District: Brompton
Registration District: Kensington
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Occupation: Cook Domestic
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birthplace: At Sea Brit Subj
Schedule Type: 11Page Number: 2

 

[eejay]

Victoria Gillingham
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Kensington, London, England, United Kingdom
County: London, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity
Sub-District: Brompton
Registration District: Kensington
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Occupation: Cook Domestic
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birthplace: At Sea Brit Subj
Schedule Type: 11Page Number: 2

Thanks have this as well

 

[gibbo]

Not been able to find a death for the mother or father.

Im wondering since Victoria was born at sea in 1874 and then her and her sister are noted as orphans in 1881 that leaves a death for her mother between Oct 1874 and 1881 census which i can't find a death in the UK for her which makes me think Catherine may have died at sea.
Were the 2 girls the only kids of their's who went to the UK? Did your Alfred stay in India or did he go the to UK as well?

 

[gibbo]

Ancestry has Victoria's year of birth as 1875. I'm not a paid member so unable to get further info.

1939 register
Name Victoria Gillingham
Birth dd/mm/1875
Residence 1939 London England

 

[juliejtp]

FMP has an overseas 1874 birth for a Victoria E Gillingham.

 

[juliejtp]

The National Archives at kew hold muster and pay records for the 10th foot 2nd battalion, and 10th foot. Could be of help.

 

[horse]

Something to ponder..

Forces War Records has 5x entries for a Robert Gillingham [service no 75] between 1861-1868 which may be Robert. All variants of Sergeant. Son, Alfred's marriage has his father as a colour sergeant [dec].

Geoff

EDIT: I don't have a full subscription.