Patrick BRODERICK

[DaveHam9]

Patrick Broderick
Age: 36
Date of Conviction: 11 Aug 1831
Place of Conviction: Galway
Vessel: Norfolk
Port of Arrival: Sydney
Date of Arrival: 1832
Ticket of Leave: Yes
Pardon: Yes

Patrick Broderick
Arrival Date: 1832
Vessel: Norfolk
Province: New South Wales
Title: General muster A - C
Year(s): 1837
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791


Looking for anything more on Patrick, eg. date of ToL, CP and Absolute Pardon.

Thanks,

Dave

Another Patrick arrived on the Neptune in 1838.

 

[gibbo]

Details
Alias: Irish Rebel: WB Religion: Catholic Age on arrival: 36
Marital status: Married 3 children
Calling/trade: Butter man ploughman
Born: 1796 Native place: Galway
Tried: 1831 Galway Sentence: Life Former convictions:
Ship: Norfolk (3) [1832]
Crime: Unlawful oath

http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi?requestType=Search2&id=1727
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The link below has a alias of PHILLIP Broderick

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/broderick/patrick/132309

 

[gibbo]

NSW state archives

BRODERICK Patrick - Norfolk (3) -
1846 Recommended Conditional Pardon
[4/4479; Reel 797 Page 179]
Recommended by Charles Cowper MC; M Brennan; Francis Macarthur JP

 

[gibbo]

BRODERICK Patrick - Norfolk 1832 47/432 CP 30 Jul 1847

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/694366?

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Married with three children is correct.

The children arrived in NSW:

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/showthread.php?p=192977#post192977


Interesting that Patrick spent time in Hunter region before settling in Goulburn.

 

[gibbo]

Case closed?

 

[DaveHam9]

Not so fast. :2fun:

A death ?

5067/1867 BRODERICK PATRICK MICHEAL MARY GOULBURN
5900/1878 BRODERICK PATRICK PATRICK ANN GOULBURN

8931/1895 BRODERICK PATRICK UNKNOWN UNKNOWN LIVERPOOL
14506/1896 BRODERICK PATRICK MICHAEL MARGARET NEWTOWN
9079/1898 BRODERICK PATRICK UNKNOWN UNKNOWN CARCOAR

Probably one of the first two.

Try to confirm it is 1878.

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Patrick BRODERICK
Ship: Norfolk 3
Born:1796 Loughrea, Galway, Ireland
Died: 27/2/1878 Laggan,NSW
Buried: Roman Catholic Cemetery Laggan,NSW
Parents: Patrick Broderick/Ann Mary Threacy(Tracy)
Married: c1820 Mary Callagy- Died c1839 Galway,Ireland
Children:
John B.17/3/1823 Loughrea,Galway,Ireland
Ann Mary B.1825 Loughrea, Ireland
Catherine B.1826 Loughrea,Galway,Ireland
Children followed Patrick to Australia arriving 1841 Ship Wallace.They
settled in the Laggan area, and buried in Laggan Cemetery.


BMD index has 26 Feb.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find a list of burials for Laggan Cemetery.

 

[gibbo]

Ireland archives

Last name: BRODERICK
First name: PATRICK
Full name: PATRICK BRODERICK
***: M
Trial place: Co Galway
Imprisonment place: New South Wales
Trial date: 00/00/1831
Document date: 21/08/1839
Crime desc: Ribbonism
Sentence: Transportation
Petitioner: Broderick
Relationship: Brother
Document ref1: FS 1839 141

Not sure if the link will work this way or not. If it does work he is the last one listed.

http://findingaids.nationalarchives...escTxt=BRODERICK&offset=10&browseresults=true

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.


I can't find anything to confirm the 1878 death.

There are several Patricks in TROVE.

This one in the Liverpool district.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) - Friday 20 February 1857 p.5


This one in Hunter district:

The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) - Saturday 8 May 1869 p.2
DRUNKENNESS.-Yesterday, at the East Maitland police court, Patrick Broderick pleaded guilty to having been drunk in Morpeth on the 6th instant, and was discharged.

The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) - Thursday 20 February 1879 p.5
DRUNK AND DISORDERLY.-On Thursday last, Patrick Broderick wes brought before Mr. C. E. Jaques, J.P., at the Morpeth police court, charged with having been drunk and disorderly in Swan street on the previous night.

 

[DaveHam9]

We have nothing that proves that the Patrick who arrived on the 'Norfolk' and not the one on the 'Neptune' is the father of the three who arrived free in 1841. We have no age at death and nothing to prove which of the two convicts or any other Patrick was the one who died in 1878 in Goulburn area.

We know that the one who arrived on the 'Norfolk' was not in the Goulburn area in 1840. He was in Paterson (Hunter region) when granted his ToL.

 

[DaveHam9]

No. -
I, Edward Naughton do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Roman Catholic Church [signed] Edward Naughton
I, Anne Brotheric do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Roman Catholic Church [signed] Anne (her x mark) Brotheric
I, Michael Brennan, of Goulburn, Priest of Goulburn, do hereby certify that, Edward Naughton of Chatsburey Co. Argyle and Anne Brotheric of Chatsburey Co. Argyle, were joined together in Wedlock by me on the Twenty third day of August 1843, at Goulburn, in the presence of Nicholas Ryan of Goulburn & Catherine Botheric of Chatsburey. Witnesses by their marks - Witness to all the above marks [signed] Michael Brennan
[signed] Michael Brennan


BRODERICK Patrick - Norfolk (3) - 1846 Recommended Conditional Pardon [4/4479; Reel 797 Page 179] Recommended by Charles Cowper MC; M Brennan; Francis Macarthur JP

What is MC?

 

[DaveHam9]

The Moreton Bay Courier (Brisbane, Qld. : 1846 - 1861) - Saturday 2 January 1847 p.4
THE GOULBURN FARCE.
TO CHARLES COWPER, ESQ., M.C.
( Per favor of the Editor of the Spectator. )


A long bio - HERE

 

[gibbo]

Case closed now?

 

[DaveHam9]

Case closed now?

You mean - do I give up? :2fun: Yes.

Post #12 sums up the problem.

 

[DaveHam9]

V1845394 94/1845 QUINN JOHN - BRODERICK CATHERINE LO= RC Goulburn St Peter & St Paul

No. -
I, Catherine Broderick do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Roman Catholic Church [signed] Catherine her x mark Broderick
I, John Quinn do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Presbyterian Church [signed] John his x mark Quinn
I, Michael Brennan, of Goulburn, Priest, Minister of Goulburn, do hereby certify that John Quinn of Chatsbury and Catherine Broderick, of Chatsbury were joined together in Wedlock by me on the 17th day of November 1845, at Goulburn, in the presence of Patrick Broderick of Chatsbury, and Andrew Newman, of Goulburn.
[signed] Patrick his x mark Broderick, Andrew his x mark Newman
[signed] Michael Brennan Roman Catholic Minister

 

[DaveHam9]

Claimed by a tree to have arrived on the same vessel as Catherine Broderick.

QUINN John - 'Wallace' 1841 Port Phillip Reel 2144, [4/4814] Page 142

22 Labourer Roman Catholic Read & Write Co Armagh £19


That does not agree with the marriage - That John was Presbyterian and signed by his mark.

 

[MaggieBo]

Patrick Broderick is buried in the Laggan Cemetery. The Callagy brothers are also buried there and all of his brother Johns' children except Catherine are buried in the Laggan Cemetery. John and Patrick's sister Mary is buried in the Goulburn Pioneer Cemetery. Patrick's son John is buried in the Crookwell Cemetery.
John's former property 'Loughrea', just outside Crookwell, is still so named and his stone cottage is still in partial existence.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.


Thanks for the info.

I have STORRIER in my direct line.

Dave