Peter and Susan YOUNG

[DaveHam9]

Peter Young & Susan Erskine
1 May 1848 St Cuthberts Edinburgh, Midlothian
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Erskine
Batch: M119902


Looking for them in 1851 thanks.

Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria
SEP 1852 EUROPA B 008 010
YOUNG PETER 25
YOUNG SUSAN 20
YOUNG HARRIETT 3

Looking for their deaths, probably in Victoria.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Peter Young
Birth Date: 1827
Birth Place: Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh, Scotland
Death Date: 9 Aug 1893
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria, Australia
Cemetery: St Kilda Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Saint Kilda, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Susan Young

Peter Young
Birth Year: abt 1827
Age: 66
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria
Father: Jno
Mother: Hart Fraser
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11660

Geoff

 

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Susan Young
Birth Year: abt 1832
Age: 46
Death Place: Victoria
Father: Erskine Thomas
Mother: Janet Fraser
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 12303

Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Susan Young
Birth Date: 1832
Birth Place: Midlothian, Scotland
Death Date: 16 Oct 1878
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria, Australia
Cemetery: St Kilda Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Saint Kilda, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Peter Young

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Don't know where Harriett was born or where they were in 1851.

Dave

 

[Ladybird1300]

Hi Dave,

This looks like Peter:

ame: Peter Young
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Trinity College
County: Midlothian
Address: 129 Bishops Close
Occupation: Journeyman Tailor
ED: 1
Page: 4
Household schedule number: 14
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_178
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Caldwell 49
Agnes Young 42
George Anderson 41
Peter Young 27

Sorry can't find Susan or Harriett, in England either


Amanda

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Amanda.

I have no occupation for Peter and age is a bit out so not sure.

If death reg is correct parents are John and Harriet.

Yes, I thought of England also. I'll see if I can find port of origin for the vessel.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

From Liverpool 17 June 1852. 500 imigrants.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Thursday 16 September 185 p.4
Arrived
September 15.–Europa, ship, 1099 tons, Hamilton
Oliver, commander, from Liverpool June 17th,
with five hundred Government emigrants. James
Barlas, Esq. Surgeon Superintendent. O. Browne
& Co., agents.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Thursday 16 September 1852 p.4
The Europa is a vessel well adapted for carrying
a living freight similar to her present one having
lofty and roomy 'tween decks, and she is by no means a
dull sailer. She has on board somewhere about five
hundred Government emigrants from Liverpool, all
in good health, only eight deaths (infants) took
place during the period of her voyage, and seven
births. The classification of the Emigrants as nearly
as could be ascertained, is as follows:–
91 married men
92 married women
45 single men
67 single women
102 boys under fourteen
77 girls under fourteen
10 boys under one year
9 girls under one year
493
Of these–three hundred and thirty-one are Scotch
sixty-three English, and ninety-nine Irish. The
Hibernia left Liverpool for this Port the same day
as the Europa, and the Waratah a week previous.
The cargo of the Europa, principally coals, is for
Bombay, her future destination.

 

[DaveHam9]

Probably not this one:

Births Jun Qtr 1850
Young Harriet Anne Bolton 21 229


If we can find a marriage for daughter Harriet in Victoria it could list her pob.

Still no occupation:

Surname: DOWNES
Given Names: Arth Wm
Event: M
Spouse Surname: YOUNG
Spouse Gvn Names: Elizth [b. Prahran]
Birth Place: MELBOURNE NORTH
Year: 1893
Reg. Number: 1129

The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) - Saturday 22 April 1893 p.46
MARRIAGES
DOWNES - YOUNG.-On the 28th ult, at the residence of the bride's father, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, Arthur William, third son of John Downes, Prahran, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Peter Young, of Melbourne and Westernport.

 

[DaveHam9]

We have Fraser on both sides.

John Young
Spouse's Name: Harriet Fraser
Event Date: 30 Dec 1825
Event Place: St Cuthberts Edinburgh, Midlothian
Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Fraser
Batch: M119896

 

[DaveHam9]

Perhaps age in shipping record is a bit low.

Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Enumeration District: 15
Civil Parish: St Cuthbert's Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Bernard's
Folio: 184 Page: 7
Address: 13 Allan Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
YOUNG Agnes F 50 Independent Midlothian
YOUNG Peter M 16 Apprentice Tailor Midlothian
MCDONALD Wm M 34 Gardener Outside Census County (1841)
AITKENHEAD Robt M 48 Gardener Midlothian
COCKBURN Janet F 40 Servant Outside Census County (1841)


Agnes his grandmother ??

I can't find Harriet, spouse of John, in 1841.

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/693 Place: Liberton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Liberton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Libberton
Folio: 7 Page: 15
Address: Gilmerton
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FRASER Susan F 50 Gardener Outside Census County (1841)
FRASER Susan F 25 Midlothian
ERSKINE Susan F 8 Midlothian

 

[rupert]

Ship image for Europa 1852 Peter Young a farmer

A son John age 1

Rupert

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Rupert.

And this PROV Will:

Peter Young Wireworker Prahran 9 Aug 1893 53/090

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas Erskine
Spouse's Name: Janet Fraser
Event Date: 22 Apr 1831
Event Place: Liberton, Midlothian
Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Fraser
Batch: M116939

 

[Ladybird1300]

Can I just check, is Susan's father Erskine Thomas?? or Thomas Erskine??

Amanda

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/693 Place: Liberton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Liberton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Libberton
Folio: 7 Page: 15
Address: Gilmerton
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ERSKINE Thomas M 30 Stone Miner Outside Census County (1841)
ERSKINE Janet F 30 Unknown
Page: 16
ERSKINE James M 8 Midlothian
ERSKINE Thos M 6 Outside Census County (1841)
ERSKINE Alexr M 2 Outside Census County (1841)

 

[DaveHam9]

Can I just check, is Susan's father Erskine Thomas?? or Thomas Erskine??

Amanda

Oh. Let me check that.

An example of a death in Victoria. I know this family:

Death
Surname: DOWNES
Given Names: Arth Wm
Father: Downes Jno Patk
Mother: Mary BOLES
Event: D
Death Place: RMOND
Age: 78
Age Code:
Year: 1944
Reg Number: 341

Father's name = Family name first = DOWNES

Mother's name = Family name last = BOLES

 

[DaveHam9]

John YOUNG born/Bap 27 Mar 1851 Glasgow City - Peter YOUNG & Susan ERSKINE

I can't find daughter Harriet.

 

[Ladybird1300]

I can't find any records for Harriett on Scotands People.

Amanda

 

[DaveHam9]

I checked too Amanda using no given name 1847 - 1850.

I'm having connection problems with several sites including this one.

Dave