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Please help with my "illegitimate" ancestor

Location
Melton Mowbray
From
England
Hello, I wonder if you could help me shed some light on one of my ancestors who is listed as being illegitimate in the baptismal records.

My 3 x great grandmother Elizabeth Matson was baptised on 8 July 1821 at Stretton on Fosse, Warwickshire and on the records she is noted as having been illegitimate. Her mother’s name at the time of the baptism was Susannah Matson, but no prior records can be found with this name.

When Elizabeth was married in 1850 a Robert Matson, solicitor, is mentioned on the records as her father, although he is noted as being deceased (I think - I can't find the marriage certificate at the moment). No further records of this man can be found.

So did her mother marry a Matson and have Elizabeth take his name (no marriage records can be found) or was Matson her mother’s maiden name, and Robert simply a phantom designed to avoid the subject of her illegitimacy? Or was it something else entirely?

I don't have much experience with illegitimate ancestors so I wonder if there is something very obvious that I'm missing!

Thanks
 
There is a Robert Matson [Solicitor] with a Charlotte in 1841..

Civil Parish: Dudley
Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division)
County: Worcestershire
RD: Dudley
Sub-RD: Dudley

Robert Matson 45 [Solicitor]
Charlotte Matson 45
Charlotte Matson 17
Robert Matson 15
Edward Matson 12
Mary Matson 10
William Matson 2
[Image says none are born in county]

Geoff
 
Susannah
Last name
Matson
***
Female
Birth year
Death year
1849
Burial year
1849
Burial date
17 Jun 1849
Place
Stretton on Fosse
Residence
County
Warwickshire
Country
England
Source
Warwickshire Burial Index 1538-1900

Ellie
 
Not sure if this is the same Robert...

1851
ivil Parish: Prescot
Ecclesiastical parish: Prescot
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Prescot
County: Lancashire
RD: Prescot
Sub-RD: Farnworth
ED: 3f; Piece: 2194; Folio: 451; Page: 30

Robert Matson 54 [b. Kent. Sol's ? Clerk]
Charlotte Matson 47 [b. Mortonshire, Monmouthshire, Wales]
Mary Ann Matson 18
William G Matson 11
Henry F Matson 3
[No Place of birth given for the offspring]

Geoff
 
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Stretton, Stretton on Fosse, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, England

Hannah Charles Female 65 1776 Warwickshire, England 
Susannah Madson Female 65 1776 Warwickshire, England 
Elizabeth Ingram Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England 
Sarah Ingram Female 15 1826 Warwickshire, England

I doubt if this is your one.

Edit-think again .If she was 4/5 years out in age ,then she would have been in her 40s

Ellie
 
Also this for Robert..

Robert Matson
Q4 1853
RD: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 346

Robert Matson
Birth Year: abt 1790
Death Age: 63
Burial Date: 24 Oct 1853
Burial Parish: Prescot, St Mary, Lancashire, England
Register Type: Parish Register
Reference Number: PR 3404/1/49

Age fluctuates a little.

Geoff
 
This looks like Robert's son William G..

William Gosley Matson
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 12 Mar 1865
Parish: Fairfield, St John the Divine
Spouse: Mary Ann Amelia Hurst
Father: Robert Matson
Spouse Father: Charles Hurst
Reference Number: 283 DIV/3/1
[Image says Robert = Lawyer, doesn't say he is deceased :rolleyes:]

Geoff
 
Not sure if this helps at all.:confused:

Pallots baptism index.

Name: Edmund Matson ??
Baptism Date: Apr 1805
Parent 1: Susanna Matson??
Parent 2: Matson??
Parish: Quinton
County: Gloucestershire


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812

Edmund Matson (Bastard).
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1805
Baptism Place: Quinton, Warwickshire, England
Mother: Susanna Matson


Quinton is a short distance from Stretton-on-Fosse.;)

Steve.:)
 
They got around a bit :)

Birth reg.
William Gosley Matson
Q2 1839
RD: Oundle
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 15
Page: 336

Geoff
 
Last edited:
Not sure if this helps at all.:confused:

Pallots baptism index.

Name: Edmund Matson ??
Baptism Date: Apr 1805
Parent 1: Susanna Matson??
Parent 2: Matson??
Parish: Quinton
County: Gloucestershire


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812

Edmund Matson (Bastard).
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1805
Baptism Place: Quinton, Warwickshire, England
Mother: Susanna Matson


Quinton is a short distance from Stretton-on-Fosse.;)

Steve.:)

Some similarities there, Steve.

Geoff
 
Northampton Mercury (Northampton, England), Saturday, November 17, 1821

On Monday last, at Wellingborough, by the Rev C Pryce, vicar, Mr Robert Matson, Solicitor, of Bishops Castle, Salop, to Charlotte, youngest daughter of the late Mr Gosley, of Wellingborough.
 
Im wondering if Robert was infact the brother to Susannah. Maybe Robert and Charlotte took Elizabeth in and raised her, hence her naming Robert as father on her marriage cert.
 
Im wondering if Robert was infact the brother to Susannah. Maybe Robert and Charlotte took Elizabeth in and raised her, hence her naming Robert as father on her marriage cert.

Dunno, Gibbo...

Can't see anything to link them.. though it does seem plausible :rolleyes:

Geoff
 
Wow, thank you for so many replies. What a treasure trove of info to look into!

Im wondering if Robert was infact the brother to Susannah. Maybe Robert and Charlotte took Elizabeth in and raised her, hence her naming Robert as father on her marriage cert.

This is an interesting idea. I'll have a play with this one.

Thanks so much, I have a lot more to look into now :)
 
Okay, I've managed to locate the marriage certificate of Elizabeth Matson and I was wrong, Robert Matson does not show as deceased. Anyhow the marriage was witnessed by a Charlotte Matson. As the marriage took place in 1850 Susannah was dead but it does seem plausible that Robert was her uncle.
 
Okay, I've managed to locate the marriage certificate of Elizabeth Matson and I was wrong, Robert Matson does not show as deceased. Anyhow the marriage was witnessed by a Charlotte Matson. As the marriage took place in 1850 Susannah was dead but it does seem plausible that Robert was her uncle.

Who did Elizabeth marry?
 
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