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Policeman in London in 1861

DaveHam9

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Hello,

I'm wondering if there is any way of checking if someone was a Policeman in London in 1861 other than by census, not that he has been found in 1861 census yet.

Thomas Baynton FORD c. 8 Nov 1835 Kilmersdon, Somerset, England

- parents William FORD & Mercy BAYNTON

He is here in 1851:

1851 census
Civil Parish: Weston
County: Somerset
Registration District: Bath
Address: Bristol Road, Postway? House
FORD Thomas, pupil, 1837 age 14 Scholar Kilmersdon, Somerset
Thanks.

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Hello Julie,

Thanks for looking. What I have does not list his occupation:


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Hannah Joyce
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year:
Spouse Name: Thomas Baynton Ford
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1857
Parish: St Dunstan in the West
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Alfred Joyce
Spouse Father Name: William Ford

They left in 1864.

FORD Thomas 24 'Fiery Star' 20 Nov 1864 IMM/112 181 Z1957 M1696
FORD Hannah 28
FORD Sarah 4
FORD Mercy 3

He is listed as a gardener in Electoral Rolls in Queensland so that's curious if he was a policeman in 1861.

I suppose one test would be if that policeman could be found in 1871. I'd say Thomas FORD would be a common name, unless it has B or Baynton as well.

I'll have to get a look up done of the shipping reel to see if an occupation is listed.

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Mercy Baynton Fords birth is registered Jul/Aug/Sept 1/4 in 1861 district Bath, county somerset. Theres to many Sarah Fords. If Sarah was born in Somerset then probaly Thomas and Hannah were in that area in 1861.
 

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Hello Julie,

1861
RG9/1683 folio 5A
Haycombe farm, Englishcombe, Somerset
George Joyce head unm 25 Farmer of 46 acres b Kilmersdon
Harriet Joyce mother widow 65 Independent b Kilmersdon
Hannah Ford sister marr 28 farmer's wife b Kilmersdon
Sarah Florence Ford niece 2 b Bath

Sarah's burial record:

Nundah Cemetery
Ford Thomas 21 / 12 / 1915 0 years
Bond Sarah 24 / 07 / 1950 91 years

Middle name Florence:

1913 QLD Electoral Roll - Lilley – North Pine
BOND Sarah Florence, Scrub, Terror’s Creek, farmer, home duties
BOND William Henry, jun., King’s Scrub, Terror’s Creek, farmer
BOND William Henry King’s Scrub, Lacey’s Creek, farmer
Two possible, more likely the first:

Births Dec 1858
Ford Sarah Florence Bath 5c 655

Births Dec 1860
FORD Sarah Florence Frome 5c 525

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Hi Dave,

Have found Hannah Ford in 1861.

Civil parish English Combe
RD Bath
Sub RD Twerton

George Joyce age 45
Hariet Joyce age 65 mother
Hannah Ford age 28 sister
Sarah Florence Ford age 2 niece
 

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Hello Julie,

Thanks.

I hope the shipping reel at least lists the occupation. Will be interesting to see if it has 'farmer' or 'agr lab' or 'policeman' :)

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There is this Thomas Ford age 25 lodger born Bath cant make out the occupation could be. His maritial status looks like unmarried

Civil parish Lyncombe and Widcombe
RD Bath
Sub RD Lyncombe
 

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Hello Julie,

Thanks for looking.

I'll search and see if I can find something between 1864 and 1913 that might have his occupation. By the time he was listed as a gardener he would have been past retirement age.

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Hello Julie,

Thanks.

I think that says Porter. :)

I found him on the Electoral Roll for 1888 and a later year but no occupation listed.

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Hello Julie,

I'll stick with Porter. ;)

It looks like a horizontal line to be the cross on the t and the last letter looks the same as the one before the t and they look like an r.

It will be at least a week before I can get details from the shipping reel.

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Hello Julie,

Re post #1 and alternative sources:

http://www.londonancestor.com/pol/pol-orders.htm

There are 6 PC FORDs in the Metropolitan Police, London in 1861. :)

PCs 58, 137, 158, 239, 257 & 430A. No given names.

Where do we go next?

http://www.met.police.uk/history/records.htm#organisation

Of course it may not be the Met but the City of London Police.

The City of London Police Records Office, 26 Old Jewry, London EC2R 8OJ possesses registers listing every member of the force since warrant numbers were introduced on 9 April 1832 together with personal files on 95% of officers who have served since that date.
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Dave
 
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Hi,

A couple good links there. If you can wait to view the passenger lists and hopefully his occupation will be noted, then if not take it from there. I've down graded my subscription so I'm able to help there.

I will have another look at the later census and see if a Thomas Ford policeman shows up.
 
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