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[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1881 Scotland census
C.P: Wick
County: Caithness
Address: Myreland Orn

James MacKay 1844 37 Crofter & Labourer Bower, Caithness
Christina McKay 1846 35 Bower, Caithness
Mary Sinclair McKay 1872 9 Edinburgh
Georgina MacKay 1874 7 Bower, Caithness
Bella McKay 1877 4 Wick, Caithness
Jemima MacKay 1879 2 Wick, Caithness
Alexander MacKay 1880 1 Wick, Caithness

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks. That's them with a few with names different to those on the shipping record.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

One I missed finishing somehow

1943 QLD Electoral Roll - Lilley - Nundah
FERGUSON Noel McDonald, Woondooma, Rode rd, Nundah, optometrist

Noel MacDonald FERGUSON b. 1908 d. 1964 ?

married 1942

Leila Gilespie WARD b. 1918 d. 1964 ?

Please see what you can find.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Two listings for 1943 NSW & QLD.

1943 N.S.W Electoral Roll – North Sydney – Artarmon
FERGUSON Leila Gillespie, 78A Whiting street, home duties
FERGUSON Noel MacDonald, 78A Whiting street, optical fitter

1943 QLD Electoral Roll - Lilley – Nundah
FERGUSON Leila Gillespie, Woondooma, Rode rd, Nundah, home duties
FERGUSON Noel MacDonald, Woondooma, Rode rd, Nundah, optometrist

1949 QLD Electoral Roll – Leichhardt - Cairns
FERGUSON Leila Gillespie, 31 Digger st, home duties
FERGUSON Noel MacDonald, 31 Digger st, optometrist

1954 QLD Electoral Roll – Leichhardt - Cairns
FERGUSON Leila Gillespie, 31 Digger st, home duties
FERGUSON Noel MacDonald, 31 Digger st, optometrist

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Noel died 22 Sep 1964 and one researcher has 24th Mt Thompson Crematorium, Qld. and 24th Sep 1964 as the death for Leila. I doubt her death is correct.

Regards,

Dave

 

[lorraine.dd]

Hi Dave and Crankypants

I discovered your thread about John Davidson, Elizabeth Whitehill Macnicol and Donald Macnicol Davidson when I googled Donald's name this morning. John and Elizabeth were my maternal great grandparents, Donald my great uncle. Would love to make contact and share family notes

Cheers
Lorraine

 

[MATMAN]

Gidday Dave,

Some few days back I was informed of your POSTINGS on this Mailing List!

Re: your POST #128 31st October 2009 1512h

I am quite probably the " BRYANT descendant in N Qld " you refer to in your POST.

My side of the allied families represents BRYANT, MELLEFONT, BROWNE, COSSART, EDGLEY to mention a few I have researched.

Cheers

Eldon Bryant... EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED FOR SECURITY REASONS. Once you have posted 3 times and your username turns green you can then exchange contact details via private message.

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Two children from 2nd marriage born after 1914:

Arthur Frederick Lloyd BRYANT b. 1917 d. aft 1945

Have in E/R

Robert Snelling BRYANT b. 1921 d. 2003

E/R 1954 Ryan

Please see what you can find.

Thanks.

Dave

PS No reply from that BRYANT descendant in N Qld.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Eldon,

Any queries I had three years ago are filled now.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Dave

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) Friday 24 January 1873
Marriage
DAVIDSON - NOBLE. -On the 31st December, at Stanthorpe, by the Rev. John McAra, John Davidson, chemist, Stanthorpe to Elizabeth Alice, eldest daughter of William Alfred Noble, bookseller and stationer, Stanthorpe.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) Wednesday 12 April 1882
Marriage
DAVIDSON - OXENBOULD.-On the 6th April,
at the Wesleyan Parsonage, Warwick, by the Rev.. J. Robson. John Davidson, chemist, of Stanthorpe, to Elizabeth Whitehill, relict of the late Edward Howard Oxenbould, ironmonger, of Brisbane.

Maiden name: MACNICOL Elizabeth Whitehill

cheers
crankypants

Does she think she is still in Scotland. :2fun: married but using her maiden name:

Death1890/C0210 Macnicol Elizabeth - -

Burial Details:
Surname: MACNICOL Given Name(s): Elizabeth
Year of Birth: 1833 Year of Death: 1890
Gender: Female Funeral Director: n/a
Place of Residence: Bundaberg Place of Birth: n/a
Church: Presbyterian Minister: n/a

Grave Details:
Cemetery: Bberg General
Location: B3 Grave Number: P131
Ownership: Private War Grave: No

Can't find Elizabeth's birth or arrival. Wonder if she was born in Victoria or Tasmania.

I wonder where the middle name Whitehill comes from.

 

[DaveHam9]

This does not help:

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) - Wednesday 18 September 1878 p.2
MARRIAGE
OXENBOULD-MACNICOL.-On the 14th September, by the Rev. Mr. Dandie, Warwick, Edward H. Oxenbould, of Brisbane, to Elizabeth W. Macincol.

 

[DaveHam9]

There are some MACNICOLs in Victoria who came from Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland in TROVE.

Found this Elizabeth:

1841
Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Gorbals -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 28
Civil Parish: Gorbals Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 28 Page: 4
Address: Coburg Lane
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MACNICOL Allan M 32 Engineer Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
MACNICOL Isabella F 30 Outside Census County (1841)
MACNICOL Archibald M 1 Lanarkshire
MACNICOL Elizabeth F 5 Lanarkshire


Allan Mcnicoll
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: Feb 1834 New Monkland,​Lanark,​Scotland
spouse: Isobel Smith

 

[lorraine.dd]

Hi Dave

Elizabeth Whitehill McNicol's 2nd Marriage was to John Davidson. She was first married to Edward Howard Oxenbould at Warwick on 14 Sep 1878. Elizabeth's mother was Elizabeth Campbell, born 12 Jan 1833 in Glasgow, Lanarckshire and her grandmother was Elizabeth Whitehill, born about 1803 in Johnstone, Renfrewshire. Hopefully my research is correct.

Elizabeth Whitehill married Donald/Daniel Campbell 24 Jun 1820 in Abbey Johnstone Renfrewshire. They had 6 children John b abt 1821, Mary b abt 1823, Daniel born 26 Jul 1824, Duncan born 9 May 1826, William born 18 Jul 1828 and Elizabeth born 12 Jan 1833. The other 3 children I have births for were at Johnstone Renfrewshire.

Elizabeth (Whitehill) and her Daughter Elizabeth (Campbell) arrived in Melbourne from Scotland in Dec 1854 aboard the “Earl of Eglinton”. William arrived on the same ship. Unsure whether her brothers John and Daniel had also come to Australia.

At the time of her death, Elizabeth (Whitehill) had lived in Victoria for about 24 years. her surviving children were John aged 55, Daniel aged 52, William aged 48 and Elizabeth aged 43, which correlates with their birth years. Duncan and Mary were both deceased. She died in Maffra, Vic.

Elizabeth (Campbell) is buried in Bundaberg with her son-in-law John Davidson. She married Donald Macnicol on 5 Feb 1855 in Geelong.

My great grandmother, Elizabeth Whitehill Macnicol/McNicol was born 5 Nov 1855 in Geelong. On a visit to Geelong to try to solve the missing births for Elizabeth and her brother Walter, Rob Sims was advised that one shipment of Birth Registrations from Geelong to Melbourne was accidentally dropped into the Yarra River whilst being unloaded from a boat in Melbourne and it covered birth registrations around the 1854-1856 period. Birth date was found in the Geelong Advertiser of 7/11/1855 which states :At Geelong, Port Phillip on the 5th instant Mr & Mrs. D Macnicol, of a daughter"" The Geelong Advertiser also gave the birth date for Walter Gibb Macnicol as 3/5/1857 in Geelong.

Have lots of other information I have gleaned from research, which I hope is correct, and from relatives. Am happy to send a family file of my information. You can contact me at ..........Email address removed for security reason per site policy

Cheers
Lorraine

 

[lorraine.dd]

PS

Hi again Dave

Would love to know your connection to this family. Maybe we are related. I also have photos for more recent generations.

Cheers and thanks for posting

Lorraine

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Lorraine,

Thanks for the info. The details of Whitehill and Macnicol are all new to me so I'm in no position to say how accurate it is.

I am very remotely connected. I will try to work out how in a few minutes and let you know.

My grandmother's sister married William Hirst KILNER who's grandmother was Caroline NOBLE.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Lorraine,

One thing that always sticks in my mind re NOBLE family is this issue that no seems able to solve:

Emma ROPER born or baptised 28 Feb 1828

Bentley, Sussex - mother Elizabeth WIGG ? or

Ufford, Suffolk - mother Elizabeth HAWARD ? or

Colchester, Essex ?

Regards,

Dave

 

[leefer]

http://www.halenet.com.au/~jvbryant/ropfam.html

This yours Dave...

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes thanks, Lee. That's one of three different versions of the tree. Most of it seems to be correct. Different descendants have different ideas about pob for Emma.


Another example of an error in the tree. Eighth not ninth child died young.

Birth 12 Mar 1868/B08274 Noble Matilda Caroline - William Alfred - Emma Roper ** died young

Birth 12 Jul 1869/B10101 Noble Caroline Matilda - William Alfred - Emma Roper


1943 QLD Electoral Roll - Wide Bay - Tiaro
INNES Caroline Matilda, "Innooroolabar" Boompa, home duties
INNES Ralph Wroxton, Boompa, grazier