Ready For Blowing a Fuse!!!!!

[Littlemo]

Hi Everyone,
Iv"e been on various websites (National Archives,Forces Genealogy etc.)but I still cant find a service rcord for my G Grandfather Michael Donnelly.
All I have is what I got from the 1871 Census which said he was Age 19, born in Prescot Lancs. in 1851(June) & he was serving with the 47thLancashire Regiment (Regiment of Foot)as a Private at Fulwood Barracks in Preston.
Has anyone any idea PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE How I can get further with this before I go completely Bananas!
Funnily enough out of all the Ancestors I"ve found Michael is the one I"ve grown most fond of.(Weird or what?) Probably because I had called my son Michael before I even knew I had a GGrandad with the sa
me name.Please someone help restore my sanity!! Best Wishes Littlemoxx

 

[p.risboy]

Calm down Littlemo,

Have a cup ot tea, and have a look at this for interest:-

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/47th-(Lancashire)-Regiment-of-Foot

I doubt if it helps, who knows. And:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Loyal_North_Lancashire_Regiment

Do you know when he died, have you any other info.

Steve.

 

[Kerrymac]

Hi Littlemo,
I live close to the Prescot area, so I will see if I can find out anymore details for you, the ref. to Bold street in Prescot, was Michael registered on the 1861 census at the same address.Although he won't be on the 1851 census, his parents probably are.Do you have any other details relating to Michael or any other documentation from the same timescale eg,birth register dates or marriage references from 1850. I will let you know kerrymac

 

[patrickw]

hello again Mo,
I know you said you have tried the nat archives, but did you know that each unit in the british forces kept its own unit diary and that the archives keeps a copy of that diary. If you send for a copy, you may find that Michael is listed in it, or is shown as posted elsewhere which will give you another avenue to follow.
All the diaries are listed by reference number and Ive looked it up, I think the one you might want is Catalogue Reference WO 166.
You would need to confirm this by stipulating exact dates and unit etc, but Im sure they could help with the approprioate document. Who knows, it may be the next step on the ladder. Hope this is of help or at least interest
best wishes
Pat xxx

 

[JMR]

There are some military details on Ancestry that I can check for you, if you can give me some specific details that you have found in the census data.

cheers,
Jill

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Littlemo,

Maybe a long shot "Asplin Military History Resources". If you click on contact Kevin with your query he may be able to point you in the right direction.

http://www.britishmedals.us/kevin/intro.html

 

[AthenaLou]

staff at The National Archive are about as helpful as a chocolate teapot im afraid...........i've had a similar thing with my grand dad who served on HMS Shannon in the battle of jutland......the staff had no idea in which direction to point me....other than to a computer which is wot they do every time i go there........and i coulda done that at home and already had and come up with zilch........they said the ships musters wouldnt help......who knows??? never got a chance to look.....i have no idea if he moved up the ranks....i got more information from the maritime museum in greenwich who incidentally pointed me in the direction of TNA in the first place.....or theres the imperial war museum that may be worth a phone call to c wot they hold.....TNA told me in no uncertain terms the stuff records they hold wouldnt really help and they hold very few.......im sure someone aint telling me the truth

 

[p.risboy]

staff at The National Archive are about as helpful as a chocolate teapot im afraid...........i've had a similar thing with my grand dad who served on HMS Shannon in the battle of jutland......the staff had no idea in which direction to point me....other than to a computer which is wot they do every time i go there........and i coulda done that at home and already had and come up with zilch........they said the ships musters wouldnt help......who knows??? never got a chance to look.....i have no idea if he moved up the ranks....i got more information from the maritime museum in greenwich who incidentally pointed me in the direction of TNA in the first place.....or theres the imperial war museum that may be worth a phone call to c wot they hold.....TNA told me in no uncertain terms the stuff records they hold wouldnt really help and they hold very few.......im sure someone aint telling me the truth

Lot to be said for timeing Athenalou, visiting just before tea/lunch breaks is not a good idea. And also late in the day, when they just want to get home.
Don't be put off by one bad experience, but when it happens for the tenth time in a row, there must be something wrong. Having a 'bad day' does not cut it for an excuse.

I don't condone their attitudes, but when someone asks "where do I......?" for the 10,000th time that day, it might 'grate' on the best of us.

Repeat after me , calm, calm, calm.:biggrin: :biggrin:

Steve.

 

[pejay]

do you think this could be him on the 1891 census?, judging by where his wife and children were born it may be a possibility. If so he was discharged from the army prior to 1891, and should have some discharge papers somewhere.anyway have a look

11 Wharf Street, Bedford, Leigh, Lancs
Michael Donnelly head age 39 gen lab St Helens
Elizabeth " wife 25 East Indies
Walter " son 5 Ireland
Joseph " " 3 Suffolk Bury St Edmunds
Mary " daug 7m Lancs, Leigh
thomas Medley lodger 17 gen lab East indies
if you think this is him I can look on the 1901 census if you do not have access to it. good luck

 

[gortonboy]

deleted,,,,we already cracked this one .