Rebecca HARTSHORN

[DaveHam9]

Rebecca Hartchorn
Birth Date: 1830
Father: John Hartchorn
Mother: Anne
Birth Place: New South Wales
Reg Year: 1830
Reg Place: Parramatta, NSW
Volume Number: V183040 150

I can't look that one up being a Volume past 123.

Looking for any details on her parents.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

NSW birth index

HARTSHORN REBECCA 40/1830 V183040 150 JOHN ANNE

HARTSHORN ELIZA 139/1833 V1833139 18 JOHN ANN
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Maybe John's death but cant prove it.

NSW death index

HARTSHORN JOHN 1629/1835 V18351629 19 AGE 38

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I'll try to look for that burial tomorrow.

And I'll look for Eliza's bap.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I38558&ged=purnellmccord.ged

Reference Number: t18190113-104
Offence: Theft > pocketpicking
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Transportation

 

[DaveHam9]

Wonder why the tree has Rebecca 1831.

Possibly born 1830 and baptised 1831.

When the birth and baptism are not in the same year it's the year of birth that's in the index even though the V Church record is a baptism.

 

[DaveHam9]

Rebecca was actually a very young widow.

Page 141
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of St. Philip Sydney in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1848
No. 567
Robert Pate of this Parish Bachelor
Rebecca Freeman of this Parish Spinster
married in this Church by Banns with the consent of the mother of Rebecca Freeman
Third day of January 1848 By me William Cowper
Parties signed: Robert Pate (his x mark), Rebecca Freeman
Witnesses: James Pate of Sydney, Ann Freeman of Tumut River

James Pate is a younger brother.

 

[Bootzy]

SMH – Mon 25 Sept 1911

PATE – September 23 (suddenly) at the residence of her niece Mrs E Morrison, Robinson street West Kogarah, Rebecca Pate late of Brisbane in her 82nd year.



Rebecca Hartshorn married William Freeman 1845 Bungonia Goulburn - he died 1845



Robert Pate’s death – June 1870 Qld

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51578806?searchTerm=robert%20pate&searchLimits=l-decade=187|||l-year=1870|||l-state=Queensland

 

[horse]

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Maybe John's death but cant prove it.

NSW death index

HARTSHORN JOHN 1629/1835 V18351629 19 AGE 38

To follow on from Gibbo's find, this may be the burial..

Find A Grave

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

Heavy rain this morning so I'll wait before going to the library.

Dave

 

[horse]

Rebecca Hartchorn
Birth Date: 1830
Father: John Hartchorn
Mother: Anne
Birth Place: New South Wales
Reg Year: 1830
Reg Place: Parramatta, NSW
Volume Number: V183040 150

Rebecca Hartshorn
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1831
Baptism Place: New South Wales, Australia
Parish: St. John's Anglican Church Parramatta
Parents = John Hartshorn & Anne Hartshorn
[Occ = boatman. Abode = Parramatta. Birth = 27 May, no year given]

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

Off a Tree on A..

Ann Ruse (Kiss)



Ann went on to having 3 different relationships and Daniel Reed was the only one we believed she married. Daniel re-offended so Ann left Thomas with James & Elizabeth Ruse, she put 2 daughters in an orphanage and 1 daughter she left with her sister Mary Kennedy nee Ruse (Formerly Crooks).



Ann then met John Hartshorn (senior) and had 3 daughters and a son – she named him John Hartshorn jnr. The year John jnr was born John snr died



Ann met up with Thomas Payne and had 2 sons and 1 daughter.



Ann & Thomes Payne moved to Tumut with John Hartshorn jnr as a baby, John was also known as Jack Payne.



Marriage St Matthews Windsor 17 May 1819 Ann Ruse to Daniel Reed (1785 Essex – Aug 1869 NSW also a Convict.



Ann Ruse Kiss b 7 Sept 1801 NSW to James Ruse/Kiss (Convict 1759-1837) & Elizabeth Perry 1766-1836



some history on James Ruse

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/85948417?searchTerm=james ruse&searchLimits=

a bit more

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/178378676?searchTerm=james ruse&searchLimits=



a book on him - https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/207526029?q=james+ruse&l-decade=183&c=picture&versionId=248111979



James Ruse married Elizabeth Perry 1790 Parramatta

 

[Bootzy]

John Hartshorn & Ann Ruse had:

Rebecca 40/1830 V183040

Eliza 139/1833 V1833139 – died 1834 - infant

and John jnr 1835 – BDM ? - married 11 Dec 1874 Tumut to Caroline Norton (1859-1942) – died June 1918.

Adelong & Tumut Express – his Orbit

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112679947?searchTerm=hartshorn&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-decade=191

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I now have a copy of the baptism. No year in the birth column.

Thanks Val.

James Ruse is very well known in early NSW. A High School named after him.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

I now have a copy of the baptism. No year in the birth column.

Yeah, I double-checked that column because 2x other entries give the year [1830]. There are faint markings in the column, but that could be from the previous or opposite pages.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

There is no 1830 in the column so curious.

V183040 150 That means Year = 1830 Record #40 of Volume 150 assigned by the Registrar.

The No. (536) in the Church Register very rarely matches the record number assigned by the Registrar on receipt of the copies from the churches.

If for one year a Church Register started with 1 then you might get a run of records where the two # agree. The records for the year are not in any order. They will jump all over the parishes in NSW.

Dave