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RICHARD LEWIS b abt 1876, Cardiganshire

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LEWIS IN WALES = NEEDLE IN HAYSTACK!
My gg grandfather was RICHARD LEWIS b abt 1876 at Penllwip (Penllwyn), Cardiganshire. He was a collier and moved to Maerdy in the Rhondda Valley. Possible sighting on the 1891 census, in lodgings at the time. Birth place given as (Capel) Bangor which used to be in the parish of Llanbadarn Fawr.
I found possible parents in that area, but the birth date for their Richard is 2 years out. There is another poss. in the 1881 census:

Richard Lewis abt 1836 Llanbadarn Fawr, Cardigan - census place Trefeirig
Ann Lewis abt 1868 Daughter - as above
Jane Lewis abt 1871 Daughter - as above
Margaret Lewis abt 1873 Daughter - as above
RICHARD Lewis abt 1875 Son - as above

If it helps - Richard married Ann Davies 2Q 1896 Registered at Pontypridd.
I believe they had 15 children including my grandfather, Wales and Arsenal goalkeeper Dan Lewis.

Any info much appreciated!
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Christine:confused:
 

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Hi Christine,

If you hav'nt got it already I would suggest that you obtain Richard and Ann's marriage certificate as this will have the fathers name and occ as well as the familys address. I see that there is a Jane Lewis with Richard on the 1891 census is she the same as the one on the 1881 census?

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Could well be Julie. I wish the old ancestors had been a bit more consistent in their answers to the enumerators! I had to get a copy of Granddad's birth certificate to get his parents names. I expect I will have to do as you suggest if I don't get lucky on this board.
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Christine
 

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Chris
On a related matter, did you ever get any further with this part of your research? I am interested as Ann Lewis, nee Davies is in my family tree. Her brother William is my Gggrandfather and it follows that her father Thomas is my ggggrandfather.
Also, as a devoted Cardiff City fan, having Dan Lewis in the family has always been an area of great pride.
Cheers

Andrew
 
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Hi Andrew

Good to hear from you cousin! I'm having problems with this side of the family as the Parish Clerks in Cardiganshire were a bit lacks-a-daisical about filling in the registers! I think the Richard from the 1881 census in my original posting is probably my Richards' father. He was born in Llanbadern Fawr abt 1836 and married a Margaret also from L.F. Unfortunately there are two or three couples with the same names who married in the area at about the same time, so I don't know which is which. This Richard died Oct-Dec 1893 and the death was registered at MacHynlleth District, Powys. They appear to have had the following children: David 1861, Anne 1868, Jane 1871, Margaret 1873 and Richard 1875.

My grandfather Dan Lewis met my grandmother (Ethel May Robbins) when he moved to London to play for Clapton Orient. They married in Hackney on 04/06/1927 - the year of the ill-fated Cup Final! Incidentally, the Arsenal book has his date of birth as 11/12/1902 but he was actually born on the 4th of December. Children from the marriage were Jacqueline Patricia 1928 (my Mum) and David 1937. Mum was regularly taken to Highbury as a child and says she was spoilt by all the players. Grandad finished his playing career at Gillingham and became a security guard, firstly at Chatham Dockyard and then at Kodak. Several people had suggested that he become a coach but he didn't bother to ask! He collapsed and died on the bowling green at Scarborough while on holiday. Yet again I think the Arsenal book is wrong. They have it as 1965 but I think it was 1966. My brother and uncle have two of his Wales caps and there is (if it's still there) another one in a working man's club or similar in Maerdy.

My Mum was evacuated to Maerdy for nine months during the war. I bet she was a bit overwhelmed by the vastness of the family! She said "Munghi" (Anne)- sorry, I don't know the correct spelling, was lovely.

I would love to know more about the Davies side of the family if you have time. Did they originate in the Aberdare area? Mum had always assumed that her Dad's family were from Maerdy until I started my research. She was a bit surprised that they were actually from Cardiganshire.

Time to go, hope to hear from you soon!
Kind Regards
Chris
 

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I have some info from my cousin David ,in Pembrokeshire on our family of ;ewis ,i will post as you may find it interesting ,and it could be a link also to your Lewis..here is ifo on my lewis..http://thelewisfamily.id.au/
now here are my Lewis family there is added info ,but do you have any of these lewis you know of and now i will post the davies family that is mine too..i can give you more on these lot but i hope i am not posting too big ..maybe i should send a file i will make up will i send in an email..
Lynne
LEWIS , unknown
LEWIS, Alice
LEWIS, Arthur
LEWIS, Arthur Leonard
LEWIS, Craig David
LEWIS, Darren John
LEWIS, Dorothy May
LEWIS, Fiona
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)

DAVIES, Beyarran
DAVIES, David
DAVIES, Dinah
DAVIES, Evan
DAVIES, Hannah (20 JUL 1873-3 JUL 1951)
DAVIES, Jim
DAVIES, John
DAVIES, Lorna
DAVIES, Margreta (Katie)
DAVIES, Mary
DAVIES, Sarah
DAVIES, Simon
DAVIES, unknown
LEWIS , unknown
LEWIS, Alice
LEWIS, Arthur
LEWIS, Arthur Leonard
LEWIS, Craig David
LEWIS, Darren John
LEWIS, Dorothy May
LEWIS, Fiona
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
 

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I have some info from my cousin David ,in Pembrokeshire on our family of ;ewis ,i will post as you may find it interesting ,and it could be a link also to your Lewis..here is ifo on my lewis..http://thelewisfamily.id.au/
now here are my Lewis family there is added info ,but do you have any of these lewis you know of and now i will post the davies family that is mine too..i can give you more on these lot but i hope i am not posting too big ..maybe i should send a file i will make up will i send in an email..
Lynne
LEWIS , unknown
LEWIS, Alice
LEWIS, Arthur
LEWIS, Arthur Leonard
LEWIS, Craig David
LEWIS, Darren John
LEWIS, Dorothy May
LEWIS, Fiona
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)

DAVIES, Beyarran
DAVIES, David
DAVIES, Dinah
DAVIES, Evan
DAVIES, Hannah (20 JUL 1873-3 JUL 1951)
DAVIES, Jim
DAVIES, John
DAVIES, Lorna
DAVIES, Margreta (Katie)
DAVIES, Mary
DAVIES, Sarah
DAVIES, Simon
DAVIES, unknown
LEWIS , unknown
LEWIS, Alice
LEWIS, Arthur
LEWIS, Arthur Leonard
LEWIS, Craig David
LEWIS, Darren John
LEWIS, Dorothy May
LEWIS, Fiona
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)
LEWIS, Gareth
LEWIS, Ivy May
LEWIS, Jeffrey
LEWIS, John (1942-)
LEWIS, John Edward
LEWIS, Kenneth William Seymour
LEWIS, May Matilda (1917-)
LEWIS, Megan Joanne
LEWIS, Melinda
LEWIS, Olga
LEWIS, Owen Victor Seymour
LEWIS, Penny
LEWIS, Rachel
LEWIS, Robin
LEWIS, Roger (1952-)
LEWIS, Sally
LEWIS, Sarah
LEWIS, Shane
LEWIS, Sharon
LEWIS, Steven Kenneth Denzey
LEWIS, William (-1942)
LEWIS, William Morris (7 OCT 1907-21 DEC 1997)

there is a lot more info to these people of course i can give a few birth places,and spouses and husbands and wives..and children of some ..this is only so far as david has dug out he said there were more but working too,it gets on top of him at times ..but he will send more as he gets ..cheers lynne.
ihe has got family list thru from A TO Z ..SO never know ..
 
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Hi Lynne

It was very kind of you to forward the Lewis info - thankyou! I am still stuck on Richard Lewis snr. I know he married Margaret - but Margaret who? I need to find Rich snrs parents. I will keep searching and perhaps eventually something will fall into place. Good Luck with your clan!
Kind Regards
Christine
 

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Hi again .going thru some more of my family of Lewis i found this ,maybe who you are looking for..these are in my family bookof names etc..
.Richard LEWIS ..Birth: 1760
Aberyswith, Cardiganshire, Wales
Christening: 17 Sep 1752
Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales
Burial: 18 Sep 1858
Llanbarden Fawr, Cardiganshire, Wales ../
Father: John LEWIS
Mother: Margaret...
married spouse.. Ann FARRENT ..
some things are blank as we have nothing as yet either
Born: Abt 1762 Place: Aberyswith, Cardiganshire, North Wales
Died: 4 Jan 1851 Place: Llanbarden Fawr, Cardiganshire, Wales
Married:? Place: ?
now for children we have found to date...so far ..we believe there are more ..
Children

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1. Name
Esther LEWIS

Born: 1788 Place:
Christened: 26 Apr 1788 Place: Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales

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2. Name
Thomas LEWIS
Born: 1790 Place:
Christened: 29 Apr 1790 Place: Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales

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3. Name
Elizabeth LEWIS Born: 1793 Place:
Christened: 20 May 1793 Place: Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales

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4. Name
John LEWIS
Born: 1795 Place:
Christened: 21 Sep 1795 Place: Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales

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5. Name
David LEWIS

Born: 1800 Place:
Christened: 26 Jun 1800 Place: Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales

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6. Name
Mary LEWIS

Born: 25 Apr 1786 Place: Of Llansantfread, Aberstwith, Brensh
Died: Bef 1870 Place: Of Llansantfread, Aberstwith, Brensh ...
now i was told by david ,i also have to watch names etc as margaret ca also be margred ..and lewis can also be spelt lewys the further you go back on some documents,some docs i have from family records do not match up ,i found that is some times where i have hit a brickwall so to speak....so maybe just maybe some dates could not be quite exact as to what we have ..hope i have been able to assist ..i still have more lewis or lewys records,..i found a margaret or margred but no last name too in mine but there must be a record some where just have to keep trying if i find will let you know ..
Lynne
 

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HERE IS WHAT I FOUND IN MY SEARCHES
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/lib...rvon,+Bangor+-+Church+records&columns=*,180,0
NOW IF WE COULD GET INTO THESE I AM SURE WE COULD EXTRACT SOME MORE INFO ..MAYBE SOME ONE ON THIS SITE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US..FROM THE TITLES I HAVE COME TO CONCLUSION THIS IS WHERE OUR RECORDS LIE..SO I AM GOING TO POST UP FOR HELP ..WHAT DO YOU THINK ..LYNNE
Topic Wales, Caernarvon, Bangor - Church records

Titles Bangor, Caernarfonshire, Wales, [list of marriages] 1727-1932 Hayes, Dafydd
Births and baptisms for Capel Y Graig (Bangor, Caernarvon), 1829-1836 Capel Y Graig (Bangor, Caernarvonshire : Welsh Calvinistic Methodist)

Births and baptisms, 1790-1837 Ebenezer Chapel (Bangor, Caernarvonshire)

Bishop's transcripts, 1727-1829 Church in Wales. Parish Church of Bangor

Church records for the Tabernacle Chapel (Bangor, Caernarvon), 1808-1837. Tabernacle Chapel (Bangor, Caernarvonshire : Calvinistic Methodist)

Register of births 1891-1893; births and deaths 1846-1916 and marriages notice book 1839-1849 of Bangor and Beaumaris ..


For a printable version of this record click here then click your browser's Print button.

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Sounds great Lynne! I have the Breckon Lewis's on file but wasn't sure if they were mine or not. Mary Lewis (daughter of John) was married three times: Morris Williams 1810 at Nant-y-Glo, Monmouth; Thomas Williams 1815 at Aberysruth, Monmouth; and William John Owens ??

I think these could be the same family but there is a big gap to fill!

Thomas Lewis (father)
Thomas Lewis (1510-1628) son married Maude Turbeville (1515)

Richard Lewis (bel.1537-1628) son of Tom jnr m Nest Verch Thomas (bel 1541) at Llangattock, Crickhowell, Breckon 1569

Their son William Lewis (abt 1563-bel. 1628) born Llanelly, Llangatuck-Nighe-Uske, Breckon m Elizabeth Morgan (abt 1572) at Mecham, Monmouth.

He had a brother (and probably more siblings) Richard Rykett Lewis (1565-1616?) who m Catherine Morgan (1570-1615) at Mecham, Monmouth

William & Elizabeth had Richard abt 1600 at Llangattock. These are all on IGI.

Then there is a big gap to John Lewis (1728) born Glasbury who I thought married Marjery (abt 1730, Brecon) and that they were the parents of Richard Lewis (1760). It's all a bit confusing isn't it? If this is my Richard I wonder how he came to be born at Aberystwyth, brought back to Glasbury to be christened, then ended up marrying an Aberystwyth girl if his family were still living in Glasbury? Perhaps they had already moved away and only came back for the christening in their local church?

Keep going Lynne!
Kind Regards
Christine
 
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Sounds great Lynne! I have the Breckon Lewis's on file but wasn't sure if they were mine or not. Mary Lewis (daughter of John) was married three times: Morris Williams 1810 at Nant-y-Glo, Monmouth; Thomas Williams 1815 at Aberysruth, Monmouth; and William John Owens ??

I think these could be the same family but there is a big gap to fill!

Thomas Lewis (father)
Thomas Lewis (1510-1628) son married Maude Turbeville (1515)

Richard Lewis (bel.1537-1628) son of Tom jnr m Nest Verch Thomas (bel 1541) at Llangattock, Crickhowell, Breckon 1569

Their son William Lewis (abt 1563-bel. 1628) born Llanelly, Llangatuck-Nighe-Uske, Breckon m Elizabeth Morgan (abt 1572) at Mecham, Monmouth.

He had a brother (and probably more siblings) Richard Rykett Lewis (1565-1616?) who m Catherine Morgan (1570-1615) at Mecham, Monmouth

William & Elizabeth had Richard abt 1600 at Llangattock. These are all on IGI.

Then there is a big gap to John Lewis (1728) born Glasbury who I thought married Marjery (abt 1730, Brecon) and that they were the parents of Richard Lewis (1760). It's all a bit confusing isn't it? If this is my Richard I wonder how he came to be born at Aberystwyth, brought back to Glasbury to be christened, then ended up marrying an Aberystwyth girl if his family were still living in Glasbury? Perhaps they had already moved away and only came back for the christening in their local church?

Keep going Lynne!
Kind Regards
Christine
 

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Dear chris W
As I have researched many of my Welsh lines I can help you with some general information.
If your Richard Lewis came from the Capel Bangor area he may have been a miner or lead worker in that area and many of them moved down south when the mines closed down even the women.
The National Library in Aberystwyth has most of the records and Bishop's Transcripts there all in one place. It is worth taking a week off to do some work there . Also they are all very helpful in helping you to find your lot.
I shall presume you also know about Patronymics. It makes life more difficult until you get the hang of it. I have looked through the Llanbadarn registers and it does help if you know the name of the house that they lived in as that is also mentioned in the Census and parish record.
If I can help in general please let me know. You may have found Richard's birth by now, so if you have please ignore the above !!
Maddie
 

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