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Robert CAIRNS

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Marriage V1856337 101/1856 CAIRNS ROBERT - DERVIN BRIDGET LD= RC St Mary's Sydney

Birth 1073/1869 CAIRNS DAVID Y - ROBERT - BRIDGET - SYDNEY * middle initial Y= Young

Death 4198/1905 CAIRNS ROBERT - WALTER - HELEN - BALMAIN SOUTH

The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 12 May 1905 p.6
DEATHS
CAIRNS.-May 11, 1905, at his residence, 25 Theodore-street, Balmain, Robert Cairns, in his 76th year, a resident of Miller's Point for nearly 50 years.

Death 8814/1919 CAIRNS DAVID - ROBERT W - BRIDGET - BALMAIN SOUTH * the Initial W looks to be an error given the following death

Death 9865/1936 CAIRNS ROBERT WALTER - ROBERT YOUNG - BRIDGET - BALMAIN * perhaps the middle name Young is an error

Looking for info on Robert senior before his 1856 marriage. Born abt 1830.

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Sometimes they fall into place. Assume Scotland and mmn Young and ...

CAIRNS
ROBERT
WALTER CAIRNS/HELEN YOUNG
M
24/09/1829
282/
160 239
Dundee

No marriage for a Walter to a Helen/Ellen ... but one to Alison but only two months earlier.

CAIRNS
WALTER
ALISON YOUNG/
10/07/1829
282/
210 286
Dundee
 
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Can't find any other children for Walter & Helen. And only this one with mother Alison.

CAIRNS
ROBERT
WALTER CAIRNS/ALISON YOUNG
M
26/10/1829
349/
20 57
Dunkeld
 

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I can't find Robert Cairns born 1829 in 1841 census in Scotland.

No death in NSW index for a Walter or Helen Cairns.

No Robert Cairns in Assisted to NSW who fits.
 
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David Young Cairns bachelor age 36 – parents Robert Young Cairns (dec) & Bridget Durvan (dec) – rigger 13 Sept 1905 Sydney to Elizabeth Jane Persell age 32 – parents Eyer Persell & Jane Tipple Persell

David died 1919 NSW – Robert W & Bridget



Headstone David Young Cairns age 50 B 1869 died 21 April 1919 Sydney buried Waverley section 14 Select, Row 10 – My Husband – Anglican

Elizabeth Jane Cairns died 1 Aug 1942 – widow on Dec Estate Files.



SMH – Sat 26 April 1919

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28098255?searchTerm=david%20young%20cairns&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-decade=191|||l-year=1919|||l-category=Family+Notices



SMH – Tue 4 Aug 1942

CAIRNS – August 1st 1942 at Balmain District Hospital, Elizabeth Cairns dearly loved aunt of Aurthur, Lillian (Mrs E R Ward), Elsie (Mrs R Wall), Violet (Mrs D Piggott) and Alf. Aged 72 years.



Robert Cairns – SMH Fri 12 May 1905

CAIRNS – 11 May 1905 at his residence 25 Theodore street Balmain, Robert Cairns in his 76th year. A resident of Miller’s Point for nearly 50 years.



SMH – Wed 3 May 1905

April 28 at 25 Theodore street Balmain, Bridget Cairns aged 70 years.



Headstone Transcript

Bridget Cairns age 70 b 1865 died 28 April 1905, Rookwood section 4 row 21 – wife of above Old Church of England
 

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Thanks Val.

Transcription is really bad.

19 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of -
No. 30 1905 13th September St. Johns Bishopthorpe
David Young Cairns - Bachelor - 25 Theodore Street Balmain - Clerk - Sydney - 36 - Robert Young Cairns (decd.) & Bridget Derban (decd.) - Rigger
Elizabeth Jane Powell - Spinster - 114 Bridge Road - - - Sydney - 32 - Eyre Powell (decd.) & Jane Tipple Smith - Engineer
Married at St. John's Bishopthorpe, Sydney According to the rites of the Church of England
Parties signed: David Cairns, Elizabeth Jane Powell
Witnesses signed: John Smyth, R Powell
By me S. S. Tovey Officiating Minister

There is a piece in Trove re a crane failure and about splicing steel cables that mentions Robert and one other man.

Son Robert took over the role at the Lodge from his father as later notices have Robert Cairns, junior.

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Thanks Val.

They must have had two sons named Robert. Looks like the 2nd one got his grandfather name Walter as a middle name.

There is a notice in Trove of a young son Robert drowning. No age mentioned. I'll have to go back as I didn't save the URL.
 

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Eyre Powell married 1855 NSW Jane T Smith – he died 3 Feb 1878 NSW buried Rookwood Gen Cem – Findagrave

Zone B Section K Grave 4



Jane Tipple Powell nee Smith dies 27 Sept 1916 aged 83 yrs – buried C of E Cemetery Waverley
 

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Births & Baptism Scotland

Robert Cairns birth 24 Sept 1829 Dundee Angus – parents Walter Cairns & Helen Young – FHL Film no: 993402
 

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Thanks Val.

Seems to be no other baptisms in SP for any other children.

Eyre died 1 Feb and buried 3 Feb.

2x Robert in 1841 - one not old enough and one the right age but listed as not born Dundee, Angus.
 

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Error with the year in the index or not ?? Rather curious.

St. Laurence Sydney
Page 26
No. 100
Eyre Powell of this Parish Bachelor
Jane Tipple Smith of this Parish Spinster
married in this Church by License
Fourth day of February 1856 By me John Pendrill
Parties signed: Eyre Powell, Jane Tipple Smith
Witnesses: W. Tipple Smith of Glebe, Mary Tipple Smith of Glebe

Bap V18564933 42B/1856 POWELL EYRE - EYRE JANE

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Baptisms Administered in the Parish of St. Lawrence in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1856
No. 3431 When Baptised: February 6 When Born: 1 January 1856 Eyre - Eyre & Jane Powell Abode: Glebe Quality or Profession: Engineer By whom the Ceremony was performed: W. H. Walsh

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This is ok

ROBERT CAIRNS Age 75 - 12/05/1905 Zone B 04 4844

Bridget Cairns age 70 b 1865 died 28 April 1905, Rookwood section 4 row 21 – wife of above Old Church of England
The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 29 Apr 1905 p.20
FUNERALS
CAIRNS.-The Friends of Mr. ROBERT CAIRNS and FAMILY are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of their late dearly loved WIFE and MOTHER, to leave her late residence, 25 Theodore-st, Balmain, THIS AFTERNOON at 1 o'clock, for the Necropolis.
COFFILL and COMPANY, Funeral Directors.

The date and age fit for this burial at RC Rookwood ??

Cairns Bridget Age 70 29/04/1905 SEC*M2*D**1024 Burial

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BRIDGETT CAIRNS Age 0 4/12/1906 Zone B 4 4844

There is no death in the index in 1906.

Can't be ashes buried in CofE in 1906. RC 1905 is a burial.

Neither in ACI ?? It covers Rookwood.
 
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The only one I can find in Scotland in 1841 who fits for age but ruled out if pob is correct in census.

Piece: SCT1841/282 Place: Dundee -Angus ED: 63
Civil Parish: Dundee Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 66 Page: 1
Address: Overgate N S
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CHAPMAN David M 45 Flax Dresser Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
CHAPMAN Janet F 35 Outside Census County (1841)
CHAPMAN Ann F 8 Angus
CHAPMAN Betsey F 6 Angus
CHAPMAN Thomas M 2 Angus
CAIRNS Robert M 12 Outside Census County (1841)
HALLIBURTON Thomas M 20 Flax Dresser Journeyman Angus
 

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No help so far. Beat not Cairns or Young.

Marriage
CHAPMAN
DAVID
JANET BEAT/
25/02/1831
282/
220 39
Dundee

Looking at births for other Robert Cairns 1828 - 1830 with mmn Foxe, Chalmers, Geekie, Menteith, McBryan so no match there to Beat or Chapman.
 
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