Robert Edward CHAPMAN & Bessie S

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie Sophia/Sophie BAKER or CLIFF ??

Marriage probably in Victoria and should be before 1898

Surname: CHAPMAN
Given Names: Robt Hungerford
Event: B
Father: Robt Edw
Mother: Bessie Sophia CLIFF
Birth Place: BALLT
Year: 1897
Reg. Number: 16257

Robert junior's marriage in 1932 has his mother as Bessie Sophie BAKER.

Regards,

Dave

 

[horse]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Hi Dave

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Robert Edward Chapman
Spouse Name: Bessie S Cliff
Marriage Date: 1878
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Cootamundra, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1878
Registration number: 3349

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Robert N Chapman
Spouse Name: Alice G Penfold
Marriage Date: 1932
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: North Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1932
Registration number: 6312

I think the N should be H (Hungerford)

Bessie may have married again, though nothing obvious...

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Hello Geoff,

Thank you very much.

Well, that explains why searching the Vic. index was no use. I thought perhaps the names were entered as 'rbt edw' or something similar.

Cootamundra is almost Victoria.

1936 & 1943 NSW Electoral Roll - Parramatta - Gordon
CHAPMAN Alice Gwyneth, 20 Powell street, Killara, home duties
CHAPMAN Robert Hungerford, 20 Powell street, Killara, bank officer

NSW BDM Registration Number 1932/006312
20 April 1932
Municipality of North Sydney
Robert Hungerford Chapman
Alica Gwyneth Penfold
Bank Officer
Home Duties
17 Clermiston Ave Roseville NSW
Powell St Killara NSW
Married at St Thomas Church

Bachelor
Birthplace Ballarat Victoria Aged 34 years
Father Robert Edwin Chapman (Retired Bank Manager)
Mother Bessie Sophie Baker

Spinster
Birthplace Roseville, Sydney NSW
Frederick Edwin Penfold (Printer)
Alice Mary Stutchbury

Stutchbury is not an occupation so Baker is not an occupation.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Am i lost and or confused again, you might have this or ... You might not be looking for this :2fun::2fun:

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Thursday 22 August 1872

On the 13th instant, at St. Mary's Parsonage, West Maitland,
ALICE CLARA, the beloved wife of ROBERT EDWARD CHAPMAN, and youngest daughter of Mr. E. C. CHIPPINDALL, aged 19 years

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S



Now I'm confused. :biggrin: Is that the same Robert Edward? Parsonage = clergyman

You trying to find one, gibbo? :2fun:

 

[horse]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Well, they are lagging behind :2fun:

 

[gibbo]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

What did i do? I just put his name into Trove and thats one of the things that come up Wrong family?

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Yes. About 2:1 now. :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

What did i do? I just put his name into Trove and thats one of the things that come up Wrong family?

No idea yet. All totally new to me.

 

[gibbo]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Just for interest both Robert Hungerford Chapman and Sidney Hungerford Chapman have WW1 records online.

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Robert Edwin CHAPMAN & Bessie S

Married twice:

254/1872 CHAPMAN ROBERT EDWARD - CHIPPINDALE ALICE C - SYDNEY
2546/1872 CHAPMAN ROBERT E - CHIPPINDALL ALICE C - MAITLAND

Deaths
16027/1939 CHAPMAN ROBERT EDWARD - ROBERT - ANNIE LOANE - CHATSWOOD

22330/1939 CHAPMAN BESSIE SOPHIA - JOHN - MARY - CHATSWOOD

So Baker is a mystery on the marriage record.

 

[DaveHam9]

Was Robert Edward a clergyman? His father Robert was.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 22 September 1939 p.8
DEATHS
CHAPMAN.-September 20, 1939, at his residence 17 Clermiston Avenue, Roseville, Robert Edward, eldest son of the late Rev. Robert Chapman of Maitland and husband of Bessie S. Chapman, in his 89th year. Privately cremated.

 

[horse]

I've only ever seen him as a Bank officer... Could have been a lay preacher, possibly..

 

[horse]

Is the 'Baker' on the marriage cert., handwritten or typed, Dave?

 

[horse]

I've only ever seen him as a Bank officer... Could have been a lay preacher, possibly..

Ooops! wrong Robert, forget that redf)

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The marriage has a 2nd error, Edwin as his middle name.

Yes, Probate notice says retired bank officer.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 26 September 1939 p.2
LEGAL NOTICES.
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH
WALES.-Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will of
ROBERT EDWARD CHAPMAN late of Roseville near
Sydney in the State of New South Wales Retired
Bank Officer deceased, ...


Robert Hungerford is also a bank officer.

 

[DaveHam9]

Is the 'Baker' on the marriage cert., handwritten or typed, Dave?

It's not an original certified copy but a typed transcript a descendant supplied.

 

[gibbo]

This one finished Dave?

 

[DaveHam9]

I think so, thanks gibbo.

Grandfather was a clergyman.

 

[gibbo]

Not like i was a big help :2fun::2fun: