Robert Haylock, transported

[DaveHam9]

We are getting close to #64 after which anything can happen. :biggrin:

 

[horse]

We are getting close to #64 after which anything can happen. :biggrin:

hahaha, of course :2fun: :2fun:

Geoff

 

[horse]

A Possible for Thomas' mar. no parents listed

Thomas Haylock
Marital Status: Single
Birth Place: of The Parish of Ely Trinity, Cambridge, England
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1831
Marriage Place: Ely, Cambridge, England
Spouse: Mary Bartle
FHL Film Number: 2112080
Reference ID: No.624

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

I lose track of Thomas in NSW from the late 1840's onward BUT a Thomas Haylock was in VIC and in trouble in the early 1860's. I cant find anything on him in the VIC archives to see if he is the same fella we are chasing.

 

[horse]

I lose track of Thomas in NSW from the late 1840's onward BUT a Thomas Haylock was in VIC and in trouble in the early 1860's. I cant find anything on him in the VIC archives to see if he is the same fella we are chasing.

Thanks, Gibbo..

Yeah, a bit elusive, probably a 'career criminal' :biggrin:

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

GOT ONE :biggrin:

Vic death index

Robert Haylock
1863
Parents names unknown
Birth place ELY
Age 47

Not sure if the link will work like this

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/b...etailsAction=0DDD6EC467F821D84A6C4D7C4AFFBAD4

 

[horse]

GOT ONE :biggrin:

Vic death index

Robert Haylock
1863
Parents names unknown
Birth place ELY
Age 47

Not sure if the link will work like this

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/b...etailsAction=0DDD6EC467F821D84A6C4D7C4AFFBAD4

Thanks, Gibbo..

I can't use that link, but there is this..

Age about 4y out, looks promising.

Robert Haylock
Birth Year: abt 1816
Age: 47
Death Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 624

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Try this link Geoff

http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/search+your+family+history/

 

[gibbo]

I cant find a death or funeral notice. I was hoping to find something else to help confirm its the right fella.

 

[horse]

Try this link Geoff

http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/search+your+family+history/

Thanks, Gibbo. That works.

Probably a slightly different area of the site, it doesn't give PoB or age at death, still it's nice leap forward.

Geoff

 

[horse]

I cant find a death or funeral notice. I was hoping to find something else to help confirm its the right fella.

The mention of Ely is a nice find..

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Thanks, Gibbo. That works.

Probably a slightly different area of the site, it doesn't give PoB or age at death, still it's nice leap forward.

Geoff

Did you click on his name Geoff? Once you get the indexes up if you click on their name more info comes up.

 

[horse]

Did you click on his name Geoff? Once you get the indexes up if you click on their name more info comes up.

Thanks, Gibbo.

I hadn't realised that, got it now

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

You got difficult convicts Geoff :2fun::2fun:

 

[gibbo]

Doesnt seem like they married and or had kids in Australia. One would think if they did that someone from Australia would have a family tree but there dont seem to be any.

 

[DaveHam9]

Change of name or name as more common Haycock ??

 

[horse]

Doesnt seem like they married and or had kids in Australia. One would think if they did that someone from Australia would have a family tree but there dont seem to be any.

They were both married in England, Robert to Elizabeth Howard and had 2 children. Thomas was married ? spouse and 1 dau.

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

They were both married in England, Robert to Elizabeth Howard and had 2 children. Thomas was married ? spouse and 1 dau.

Geoff

Hi Geoff, a lot of convicts remarried in Australia even tho they had a partner and kids in the Uk.

It was not uncommon in the early years for convicts to marry again in the colony even though they already had been married prior to transportation. Some acted in the belief that their spouse was dead, others either thought they would never see their spouse again or believed incorrectly that transportation annulled marriage.

Adding this link for you, a interesting read in some parts.

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/convicts/convicts

 

[DaveHam9]

A lot of the early convicts were in common law marriages as well.

Common-law marriage, also known as sui juris marriage, informal marriage, or marriage by habit and repute, is a legal framework in a limited number of jurisdictions where a couple is legally considered married, without that couple having formally registered their relation as a civil or religious marriage.

The Mutch Index

Another useful source, especially for the early years of the Colony, is the Thomas Davies Mutch Card index to births, deaths and marriages, 1787-1957 (known as the Mutch Index). State Records holds a microfilm copy (Reels 2125-2129) of the original index which is held by the Mitchell Library.

The Index is believed to cover all relevant extant records relating to New South Wales from 1788-1828, except for the Newcastle Register and the Methodist Church records.

The practice of recording baptisms, burials and marriages in church registers was established in England during the sixteenth century. This practice was continued in New South Wales when the following Acts, aimed at validating and regularising practices, were passed:

1825 Church of England
1834 Roman Catholic (then Church of Rome)
1834 Presbrterian Church (then Church of Scotland)
1839 Wesleyan Methodist Society
1840 Congregational or Independent and Baptist denominations

However, some ceremonies that took place prior the years shown above, were not retained by church authorities, or the event was not recorded. If you are researching this early period some searches may end with no surviving records of the event you are looking for.

 

[horse]

Thanks, Gibbo.

Thanks, Dave.

Plenty of ideas for me to go at there.

Geoff