Robert & Rebecca PATE

[horse]

IGI [indexed]
Constance Pewters
Christening Date: 15 Jul 1768
Christening Place: Paulton, Somerset
Father's Name: William Pewters
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03246-5
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1526382

Interesting
Susanah Pewters
Christening Date: 20 Sep 1786
Christening Place: Paulton, Somerset
Mother's Name: Constant Pewters
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03246-5
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1526382

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap V18031209 1A/1803 PEWTERER THOMAS - father - CONSTANT

1803 November 27 Thomas - Dennis Chapman & Constant Pewterer When Born: Septr. 28 St.P SydneyA


Bap V18081849 1A/1808 PEWTERER EDWARD - father - CONSTANT

1808 August 25 Edward - James Taylor & Constant Pewterer When Born: Augt. 12 St.P. SydneyA

Death of son with father not listed.

Burial V18031839 2A/1803 PEWTERERS THOMAS - -

1803 December 9 Thomas Pewterers Abode: Parramatta Age: - Where ceremony performed: Parramatta St. J. Parramatta B

 

[horse]

It probably all adds to the family, but James still a mystery

 

[DaveHam9]

Interesting how the index does not list the fathers and the actual records do.

That's the last bit I knew I could find.

Yes, no wiser re James.

That's it for this one for now.

 

[horse]

It's had a good innings... James may be a new item another time

Interesting mystery though, Pewter/Pewterer not a particularly common name - London, NE & SW England there are a few...

 

[DaveHam9]

We will revisit the PATE and related one day, I'm sure. :biggrin:

The State Library has a set of films on convicts that I've never looked at so far.

I'm about to prepare a text file with the names and the arrival date and vessel for the 40 odd that I have.

 

[horse]

Good grief.. :2fun: :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Will be interesting when I finally check the total. It should not exceed 50 out of 5000.

I returned from the local library today also with 20 early NSW marriages. They will also keep me busy for a few days.

 

[horse]

Wow!

We like a challenge :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Hard to tell how many of those marriages will end up as posts with queries.

 

[DaveHam9]

Here is one:

GROOM: Joseph Edward PATE
Status: Bachelor
Place of Birth: Not stated
Occupation: Black Iron-worker
Age: Not stated
Usual Residence: Sydney
Father: Not stated
Occupation: Not stated
Mother: Not stated

BRIDE: Mary Ann FUIGE
Status: Spinster
Place of Birth: Not stated
Occupation: Dressmaker
Age: Not stated
Usual Residence: Sydney
Father: Not stated
Occupation: Not stated
Mother: Not stated

Date of Marriage: 14 Nov 1888
Place of Marriage: Bethel House, Sydney NSW
Religion: Congregational
Witnesses: Joseph PATE (his x mark), Margaret FUIGE
Minister: William BRADLEY

Notes:
Ref No.: 1888/1604

 

[DaveHam9]

It seems this is the birth certificate:

NAME: JOSEPH EDWARD ADLEM
*** OF CHILD: MALE
DATE OF BIRTH: 13 JAN 1868
PLACE: BENEVOLENT ASYLUM SYDNEY NSW

FATHER: ILLEGITIMATE
OCCUPATION:
BIRTHPLACE:
AGE:

DATE OF MARRIAGE:
PLACE OF MARRIAGE:

MOTHER: ELLEN ADLEM
BIRTHPLACE: NSW
AGE: 19

PREVIOUS ISSUE:

INFORMANT: ELLEN ADLEM, MOTHER, BENEVOLENT ASYLUM
PRESENT AT BIRTH: DR RENWICK, ELLEN KIRKMAN
REGISTERED: 28 FEB 1868 - SYDNEY

NOTES:


and Death 27460/1951 PATE JOSEPH EDWARD - JOSEPH - HELEN - PADDINGTON

Marriage of Joseph senior:

140/1868 PATE JOSEPH - FARMER ELLEN - SYDNEY

I know nothing yet about the FUIGEs.

 

[DaveHam9]

Looks as though Joseph's father and Mary Ann's mother were the witnesses.

Births:

1464/1868 FUIGE GEORGE - JAMES - MARGARET - SYDNEY
2025/1870 FUIGE MARY ANN - JAMES - MARGARET - SYDNEY


971/1866 FUIGE JAMES - MACARTHUR MARGARET - SYDNEY


Death 14105/1918 FUIGE JAMES 88 YRS SYDNEY SYDNEY

FUIGE James Funeral notice 20MAR1913 Funeral late of Sydney
Sydney Morning Herald 20MAR1913

I'll have to check TROVE.

That's an error in Ryerson because the Funeral notices in SMH 20 March 1913 are for son George FUIGE.

2376/1913 FUIGE GEORGE - JAMES - MARGARET - HURSTVILLE

 

[DaveHam9]

Curious. The initial is clearly a 'D' not a 'J'

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 14 November 1913 p.8
SILVER WEDDINGS.
PATE-FUIGE.- November 14, 1888, at the manse,
Lower Fort street, Dawes Point, by the Rev. William
Bradley, Joseph Edward, eldest son of J. and H.
A. Pate, to Mary Ann, elder daughter of D. and M.
Fuige. Present address, Yoorooga, St. Luke street
Randwick.

H. A. = Eleanor Ann = Helen = Helena A = Ellen in various records

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 7 December 1866 p.1
MARRIAGES
On Thursday, 6th instant, at the Scots' Church, Mr. JAMES
FINGE, mariner of the Jane Lockhart, New Zealand trade, a
native of Swansea, Wales, to MARGARET McARTHUR, of Lower
George-street, of Scottish parentage, a native of the county
Tipperary, Ireland.

It does have FINGE.

There are no FUIGE or FINGE births at all in FreeBMD.

 

[horse]

There are no FUIGE or FINGE births at all in FreeBMD.

There is this:
Deaths Q3 1932
Julia Fuige
87Y
Portsmouth
2b, 552

That gives her a birth date of about 1825, I haven't been able to expand on it yet.

Geoff

 

[horse]

There's also this birth, Dave..

Margaret Ellen Fuige
Birth Date: 1876
Father: James Fuige
Mother: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 987

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

There are 7 birth reg in NSW for FUIGE 1868 -1883 for James & Margaret.

I wonder how accurate the 'Swansea' bit is.

 

[horse]

I checked Wales and couldn't see any, unless it's been transcribed in variant form it's hard to say how accurate it is...

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I've not checked the vessel yet.

Please see if you can find a Seaman's Ticket.