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Royal ATKINS

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Hello,

Royal ATKINS age 27 in 1839 when convicted in Warwickshire. Native place given as Coventry - married - wife Mary living at NP ??

Parents Joseph & Mary at NP ??

Brothers John & Joseph
Sister Ann at NP ??

I have his height but that does not help much. :biggrin:

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name: Royle Atkins
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Mar 1815
baptism/christening place: SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Joseph Atkins
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02141-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 502206, 549659
reference number:


I can't find a tree that helps. Mother just listed as Mary.
 
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John Aston Atkins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Feb 1817 SAINT MICHAEL,​COVENTRY,​WARWICK,​ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Atkins,​ Mary

Ann Aston Atkins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 04 Dec 1818 SAINT MICHAEL,​COVENTRY,​WARWICK,​ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Atkins,​ Mary

Joseph Aston Atkins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 30 Jun 1823 SAINT MICHAEL,​COVENTRY,​WARWICK,​ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Atkins,​ Mary


That's the only Ann I can find then the matching middle names although there are three other possibles for a Joseph baptised at Coventry with parents Joseph & Mary.


Marriages Sep 1838
ATKINS John Aston Coventry 16 333

Marriages Dec 1846
Atkins John Aston Coventry 16 603


Marriages Jun 1843
ATKINS Joseph Aston Coventry 16 346

Marriages Mar 1847
Atkins Joseph Aston Coventry 16 372

Two marriages for both of them or 2x John & Joseph ???
 
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groom's name: Joseph Atkins
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Mary Aston
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 15 Apr 1811
marriage place: Saint Michael,Coventry,Warwick,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M02141-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428987
reference number:


However, why would Royal not get the same middle name?

Another marriage:

Joseph Atkins
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 25 Sep 1808 Saint Michael,​Coventry,​Warwick,​England
spouse: Mary Baddeley

A 2nd John:

John Atkins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 28 May 1813 SAINT MICHAEL,​COVENTRY,​WARWICK,​ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Atkins,​ Mary
 
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Royal arrived in 1842 so can he be found in Kent in 1841? On a prison hulk maybe. ???

name: Royal Atkins
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 25
birthplace:
record type: Household
registration district: Greenwich
sub-district: St Nicholas Deptford
civil parish: St Nicholas Deptford
county: Kent

Royal's convict record in Tasmania says he was moved to a hulk because of the noise he made. Surgeon's report lists his conduct as 'bad' :D

Could someone please check if that is a household or a prison hulk.
 
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The Surgeon's report says Royal was ironed on the hulk for noise. General conduct: Bad.

Wonder if we can get the name of the vessel.
 

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Hi Dave

The original record of the 1841 census shows it was the 'Thames' Convict Hulk:

1841 England Census about Royal Atkins
Name:Royal Atkins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Civil parish: St Nicholas
Hundred: Blackheath
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Deptford
Piece: 488
Book: 5
Folio: 26
Page Number: 5

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Thanks Geoff.

I can't see the name mentioned in any of the records I've downloaded.

He is listed as a Labourer and Engine driver on different records. Married and three children in England. That's one thing we didn't do - chase the names of those children.

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Yes thanks. I'll PM my email address.

Royal Atkins
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 16 Jan 1837 Holy Trinity,​Coventry,​Warwick,​England
spouse: Maria Smith

Some trees have her name as Mary.
 

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A couple of interesting bap. here, though there's more than one Royle Atkins in Coventry at that time :2fun::2fun:


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Mary Atkins
Parish: Coventry, St Michael
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1829
Father's Name: Royle Atkins
Mother's Name: Ann Atkins

Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Royle Atkins
Parish: Coventry, St Michael
Baptism Date: 10 Jan 1840
Father's Name: Royle Atkins
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Atkins

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Thanks Geoff.

This one possible too:

Mary Atkins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 5 Sep 1841 SAINT MICHAEL,​COVENTRY,​WARWICK,​ENGLAND
parents: Mary Atkins

Yes, I think Royal/Royle is not limited to those born after the marriage to Mary ASTON so it looks as though we'll never be sure of the maiden name of Royal's mother.

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Dear me he was a bit of a lad if this was him, age fits..

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Royal Atkins
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Date of Trial: 26 Mar 1835
Trial Year: 1835
Location of Trial: Warwickshire, England
Sentence: Death

He was tried for burglary with a John Atkins 18, both sentenced to death and had the sentence commuted to 12 months.

Possibly worth remembering John.

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Thanks Geoff,

Now that is interesting. John Aston b. 1817 - 2 years younger.

Other John ATKINs 1812, 1814, 1820 & 1822 Coventry.

I can add to that:

Ident:
Number: 7930 Name: ATKINS Royal Where Tried: Warwick Coventry City G.Q.S. When Tried: 14 Oct 1839 Height: 5 5 1/4 Age: 27 Sentence: 7 Religion: P Read or Write: R Single or Married: M Statement of Offence: Stealing some machinery work belonging to Birmingham Railroad Compy. - 12 mos. for Housebreaking - Ironed at the Hulk for noise Surgeons Report: 2 Offces. Bad Trade: Labourer Native Place: Coventry Remarks: W. Mary at NP F. Joseph M. Mary at NP B. Jno, Joseph S. Ann at NP


So Housebreaking was the first of the two offences.

NP = Native Place

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HMS Thames 1841–1863 - Bermuda and Deptford - Thames was a 46 gun Fifth-rate launched in 1823. She was converted to a prison hulk in 1841, and sank at her moorings in 1863.
 

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