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Royal & John ATKINS

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Title: Royal Atkins, one of 256 convicts transported on the Triton, 4 August 1842.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Warwick, Coventry City General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 14 October 1839.
Vessel: Triton.
Date of Departure: 04 August 1842.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 165 (84)

Atkins, Royal
Convict No: 1816
Voyage Ship: Triton
Voyage No: 207
Arrival Date: 19 Dec 1842
Departure Date: 17 Aug 1842
Departure Port: London
Conduct Record: CON33/1/33
Indent: CON14/1/15
Description List: CON18/1/35

Ident:
Number: 7930 Name: ATKINS Royal Where Tried: Warwick Coventry City G.Q.S. When Tried: 14 Oct 1839 Height: 5 5 1/4 Age: 27 Sentence: 7 Religion: P Read or Write: R Single or Married: M Statement of Offence: Stealing some machinery work belonging to Birmingham Railroad Compy. - 12 mos. for Housebreaking - Ironed at the Hulk for noise Surgeons Report: 2 Offces. Bad Trade: Labourer Native Place: Coventry Remarks: W. Mary at NP F. Joseph M. Mary at NP B. Jno. Joseph S. Ann at NP

Ident shows the following:
Wife = Mary and children ?
Father = Joseph and Mother = Mary
Brothers = John & Joseph and Sister = Ann

Royle Atkins c. 20 Mar 1815 St Michael Coventry, Warwick
Joseph Atkins & Mary
Batch: C021413

??
Siblings
John Aston Atkins
christening: 10 Feb 1817 St Michael Coventry, Warwick
Joseph Atkins &​ Mary

Ann Aston Atkins
christening: 4 Dec 1818 St Michael Coventry, Warwick
Joseph Atkins & Mary

Joseph Aston Atkins
christening: 30 Jun 1823 St Michael Coventry, Warwick
Joseph Atkins &​ Mary

Parents ??
Joseph Atkins & Mary Aston
15 Apr 1811 St Michael​ Coventry,​ Warwick
Batch: M021411
 
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Can wife Mary and his parents be found in 1841?

Did wife Mary die before 1 Feb 1855?


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Royal Atkins
Age: 20
Date of Trial: 26 Mar 1835
Trial Year: 1835
Location of Trial: Warwickshire, England
Sentence: Death

He was tried for burglary with a John Atkins 18, both sentenced to death and had the sentence commuted.
Can that be confirmed?
 
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SLQ has changed the search function and now I can't find the Transportation Database.

Brother John is listed on 1842 Ident as living in NP = Native Place = Coventry so either not involved with the offence or found not guilty.


Links to census have not been working on FS for the last two days.
 
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One baptised 1823 and two deaths:

Deaths Sep 1846
Atkins Joseph Aston Coventry 16 393

Deaths Dec 1871
Atkins Joseph Aston 48 Coventry 6d 277

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Joseph senior ?? Can't tell as Joseph Atkins is a common name in Coventry.

Deaths Jun 1844
ATKINS Joseph Coventry 16 259

Lot's of possible deaths for wife Mary and mother Mary in Coventry.

Looking for the family in 1841.

Census is working again on FS.

Several Atkins families in St Michael Coventry including a few with parents Joseph & Mary but there are children born before 1835 with names not included on Royal's convict ident.
 
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Royle Atkins
Christening Date 10 Jan 1840
Christening Place SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK
Father's Name Royle Atkins
Mother's Name Mary Ann


The census in FS are not working again for me.

Royal's wife Mary was living in Coventry in 1842 so she should be there in 1841 census.
 

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Links to census are now working.

Right age for Mary - wife of the convict:

Mary Atkins
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Michael, Warwickshire, England
Residence Note White House
Gender Female
Age 25-29
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812-1816
Birthplace Warwickshire
Registration District Coventry
Book Number 11
Parish St Michael
County Warwickshire
Page Number 19
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1152/36
James Ball M 45 Warwickshire
Mary Ball F 45
Mary Atkins F 25 Warwickshire
Stephen Millward M 11 Warwickshire
 

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This one is probably too old:

Mary Ann Atkins
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Michael, Warwickshire, England
Residence Note Town Wall
Gender Female
Age 30-34
Birth Year (Estimated) 1807-1811
Birthplace Warwickshire
Registration District Coventry
Book Number 13
Parish St Michael
County Warwickshire
Page Number 9
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1152/38
Jonathan Keene M 30 Warwickshire
Susannah Keene F 35 Warwickshire
Hannah Keene F 7 Warwickshire
Mary Ann Atkins F 30 Warwickshire
Edward Atkins M 6 Warwickshire
Royle Atkins M 17 months Warwickshire

Mary Ann Eburne F 15 Warwickshire
 

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Joseph Atkins
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Michael, Warwickshire, England
Residence Note Park Street, Little
Gender Male
Age 50-54
Age (Original) 50
Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791
Birthplace Warwickshire
Registration District Coventry
Book Number 6
Parish St Michael
County Warwickshire
Page Number 24
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1152/35
Joseph Atkins M 50 Warwickshire
Mary Atkins F 50 Warwickshire
Ann Atkins F 20 Warwickshire
Joseph Atkins M 15 Warwickshire
Elizabeth Atkins F 15 Warwickshire
Newcombe Atkins M 4 Warwickshire

Robert Tatlow M 30 Warwickshire
John Munroe M 30


The first four fit but the next two highlighted don't.
 

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Newcomb Atkins
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Nov 1837
Christening Place SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK
Father's Name Ryle Atkins
Mother's Name Mary Ann

Royal's son ? living with grandparents ?? and not with mother Mary?

Wife but no children listed on Royal's ident.
 

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Thanks Rupert.

I'm lost with the new search function on SLQ site so can't find John in Transportation database.

If he was transported to VDL then I'll search for his Ident which should list his family. That should rule John out for sure.

Royal's wife and parents should be in Coventry in 1841 but I'm not sure I've found them.

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Joseph Atkins
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Michael, Warwickshire, England
Residence Note Park Street, Little
Gender Male
Age 50-54
Age (Original) 50
Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791
Birthplace Warwickshire
Registration District Coventry
Book Number 6
Parish St Michael
County Warwickshire
Page Number 24
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1152/35
Joseph Atkins M 50 Warwickshire
Mary Atkins F 50 Warwickshire
Ann Atkins F 20 Warwickshire
Joseph Atkins M 15 Warwickshire
Elizabeth Atkins F 15 Warwickshire
Newcombe Atkins M 4 Warwickshire

Robert Tatlow M 30 Warwickshire
John Munroe M 30


The first four fit but the next two highlighted don't.

Checking 'claim a convict' no John Atkins in Trial Place Warwick (Coventry City General Quarter Sessions).
Did he remain in the U.K?

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: John Atkins
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Date of Trial: 26 Mar 1835
Trial Year: 1835
Location of Trial: Warwickshire, England
Sentence: Death
Crime: See Image [Burglary]
Date of Execution or Release: See Image [Imprisonment for 12 months]

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Royal Atkins
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Date of Trial: 26 Mar 1835
Trial Year: 1835
Location of Trial: Warwickshire, England
Sentence: Death
Crime: See Image [Burglary]
Date of Execution or Release: See Image [Imprisonment for 12 months]


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: John Aston Atkins
Parish: Coventry, St Michael
Baptism Date: 10 Feb 1817
Father's name: Joseph Atkins
Mother's name: Mary Atkins

Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Royle Atkins
Parish: Coventry, St Michael
Baptism Date: 20 Mar 1815
Father's name: Joseph Atkins
Mother's name: Mary Atkins


1841 same page as above
John Atkins Male 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
Matilda Atkins Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
Joseph Atkins Male 2 1839 Warwickshire, England
Harriet Atkins Female 0 1841 Warwickshire, England
Street Park Street, Little
Parish or township St Michael
City or borough Coventry
Town -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Coventry
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1152
Book number 6
Folio number 35
Page number 24


Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910
Name: John ?? Atkins [middle name on signature could be Aston] see last image
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Matilda Davell
Spouse Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 3 Sep 1838
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Coventry, Holy Trinity
Father Name: Joseph Atkins
Spouse Father Name: William Davell
 
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2nd marriage

Name: John Aston Atkins
Age: Full Age
Status: Widower
Spouse Name: Emma Mand
Spouse Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 12 Oct 1846
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Coventry, St Peter
Father Name: Joseph Atkins
Spouse Father Name: William Maud


1851
John Atkins Head Married Male 33 1818 Ribbon Weaver Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Emma Atkins Wife Married Female 27 1824 Ribbon Weaver Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Matilda Atkins Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Ann Atkins Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Street Nelson Street
Town -
Parish Holy Trinity
City Coventry
County Warwickshire
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough Coventry
Municipal ward Coventry
Registration district Coventry
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2068
Folio 407
Page 15
 
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Thanks Rupert.

It looks as though they are the right baptisms and Mary's maiden name is Aston. I'd say it was Royal's brother who was also convicted in 1835. Royal was convicted in 1839. The full Ident:

Number: 7930 Name: ATKINS Royal Where Tried: Warwick Coventry City G.Q.S. When Tried: 14 Oct 1839 Height: 5 5 1/4 Age: 27 Sentence: 7 Religion: P Read or Write: R Single or Married: M Statement of Offence: Stealing some machinery work belonging to Birmingham Railroad Compy. - 12 mos. for Housebreaking - Ironed at the Hulk for noise Surgeons Report: 2 Offces. Bad Trade: Labourer Native Place: Coventry Remarks: W. Mary at NP F. Joseph M. Mary at NP B. Jno. Joseph S. Ann at NP

Looks like the right family in 1841. Only problem is that Royal's wife Mary should also be in Coventry in 1841. Newcombe looks to be their son but he is with grandparents.

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Joseph Atkins & Mary Aston
15 Apr 1811 St Michael​ Coventry,​ Warwickshire
Batch: M021411

Joseph Atkins & Mary Baddeley
25 Sep 1808 St Michael Coventry, ​Warwickshire
Batch: M021411


Mary Aston is the one that fits.
 

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