RUSSELL family

[DaveHam9]

1901
Registration District: Cambuslang
Registration number: 627
County: Lanarkshire
ED: 11
Roll CSSCT1901_253
Household Schedule number: 146
Address: 2/4 Montgomery Pl, Cambuslang
Joseph Russell 58 Colliery Oversman
Janet Russell 59
Nellie Russell 16


Looking for the family in 1881 (not 1891).

Thanks,

Dave

 

[stockpot]

1901 has Joseph as a colliery oversman born Stirling and Janet as born Govan

in 1881 there is no Joseph and Janet Russell but there is a Joseph that fits with a different wife :-

parish of Slamannan Stirlingshire, ED5, P4, Line 8 Roll cssct 1881_140

Joseph Russel, oversman (coalmine) b. St Ninians Stirlingshire
Elizabeth, 36, wife, b.Stevenson Ayrshire
James, son, 17, b. Dalry Ayrshire
Elizabeth, dau, 6, b. Kilbarchan Renfrewshire
Margaret, dau, 3, b. Kilbarchan Renfrewshire
Janet Waugh, 13, visitor, b. Rutherglen Lanarkshire

(Rutherglen is next to Cambuslang where your Joseph was in 1901)

Looks as if Janet could be Joseph's 2nd wife, marriage between 1881 and 1885
will look for a suitable marriage in the indexes........found it :-
1883 Joseph Russell m. Janet Jamieson or McLuckie at Rutherglen.

Janet in 1881 census is a widow with 6 children :-
55 New St Rutherglen
Parish Rutherglen, ED 1, Household 58, line 2, cssct1881_268
Janet Jamieson, 39 b. Govan, domestic work
Jane, 21,b. Glasgow
Janet, 18, b. Rutherglen
Elizabeth, 16, b. Rutherglen
Charles, 13, b. Rutherglen
Margaret, 11, b. Rutherglen
Mary, 7, b. Rutherglen

Janet McLuckie married Crawford Jamieson, 1858, Rutherglen. they were on New St in 1861 (same street as she was at in 1881).

Elaine

 

[DaveHam9]

Thank you very much Elaine.

I didn't have Janet or Joseph in 1881.

Death 1879 JAMIESON Crawford Rutherglen, Lanark

1913 JAMIESON JANET MCLUCKIE RUSSELL F 72 CAMBUSLANG GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 627/00 0160

Joseph died after 1913.

Janet's father Robert is my 4xg grandfather. My line is Janet's older brother Alexander.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Joseph Russell
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Byron
Event Date: 31 Jul 1863
Event Place: Dalry, Ayr
Batch: M115871

James Russell
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1865 Dalry, Ayr
Father's Name: Joseph Russell
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Byron
Batch: C115871

Son James 17 in 1881. Elizabeth died 1881 - 1883.

I'd like a look up thanks for Joseph and Elizabeth in 1871 and 1861.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This looks like the family in 1851:

Piece: SCT1851/587 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Dalry Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dalry
Folio: 0 Page: 12 Schedule: 41
Address: 26 Kilbirnie Row
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
RUSSELL James Head M M 35 Iron Miner Stirlingshire - Larbert
RUSSELL Margart Wife M F 29 Stirlingshire - Larbert
RUSSELL Elizabeth Dau - F 10 Scholar Lanarkshire - Govan
RUSSELL Joseph Son - M 8 Scholar Stirlingshire - Bannockburn
RUSSELL Alexander Son - M 7 Scholar Stirlingshire - Larbert
RUSSELL Mary Dau - F 8m Ayrshire - Dalry

ST. NINIANS a parish in the county of Stirling, Scotland. ... It contains a suburb of the burgh of Stirling, the quoad sacra parishes and villages of Bannockburn and Plean, the post town of St. Ninian's ...

 

[Ellie7]

Name:
Joseph Russell
Age:
8
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1843
Relationship:
Son (Child)
Father:
James Russell
Mother:
Margaret Russell
1851
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Brunadtta, Stirling
Parish Number:
587
Civil Parish:
Dalry
Town:
Burnside
County:
Ayrshire
Address:
26 Kilbernie Row

Occupation:
Scholar
ED:
8
Page:
12
Household schedule number:
41
LINE:
16
Roll:
CSSCT1851_130
Household Members:
Name
Age
James Russell 35 -c1816 Larbet,Stirlingshire
Margaret Russell 29 -c1822 Ditto
Elizabeth Russell 10 -1841 Govan
Joseph Russell 8 -1841 Govan
Alexander Russell 7 -1844 Larbet
Mary Russell 8 Mo -c1850 Dalry

Isabella Ritchie Russell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 04 Dec 1843
Birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Russell
Mother's Name: Margaret Lochhead

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11646-5 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1066592

 

[Ellie7]

James Russell
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Dec 1817
Christening Place: , LARBERT, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1817
Father's Name: James Russell
Mother's Name: Catherine Hardie

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11485-2 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1041953 , Reference ID: 2:17VTFBX

 

[Ellie7]

1871
Name:
Joseph Russell
Age:
28
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1843
Relationship:
Head
Spouse's name :
Elizabeth Russell
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Bannockburn, Stirlingshire
Registration Number:
587
Registration district:
Dalry
Civil Parish:
Dalry
County:
Ayrshire
Address:
Holmhead
Occupation:
Ironstone Miner
ED:
10
Household schedule number:
31
LINE:
3
Roll:
CSSCT1871_108
Household Members:
Name
Joseph Russell 28 -c1843 Bannockburn
Elizabeth Russell 26 -c1845 Stevenston
James Russell 2 -c1869 Dalry

 

[DaveHam9]

Janet's brother. Just picked up on the BYRON.

John McLUCKIE & Mary BYRON
Marriage: 1890 Paisley, Renfrew

1891
Piece 587 Folio 3 Page 27
Civil Parish: Dalry
Registration District: Dalry
Address: North Street, Dalry, Dalry (Ayrshire)
McLUCKIE John Head Mar 39 Brick Builder Glasgow, Lanarkshire
McLUCKIE Mary Wife 34 Dalry, Ayrshire
McLUCKIE Jeanie Dau 12 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
McLUCKIE Robert Son 11 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire
McLUCKIE John Son 9 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire
McLUCKIE Alexander Son 7 Scholar Dalry, Ayrshire
McLUCKIE William Son 5 Scholar Dalry, Ayrshire
BYRON Margaret Sister-In-Law Unm 22 Dressmaker Dalry, Ayrshire

 

[DaveHam9]

Elizabeth Byron
Christening Date: 16 Jun 1844
Christening Place: STEVENSTON, AYR
Birth Date: 05 Jun 1844
Father's Name: William Byron
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Reid
Batch: C116156

Elizabeth is probably not a sister of the other two.

 

[Ellie7]

Charles Byron
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 Nov 1842
Christening Place: STEVENSTON,AYR,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 07 Nov 1842
Father's Name: William Byron
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Reid

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11615-6 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1041469





William Byron

mentioned in the record of William Byron and Elizabeth Reid

Name: William Byron
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Reid
Event Date: 18 Dec 1841
Event Place: Stevenston,Ayr,Scotland

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11615-6 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1041469

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

William Byron
Birth 27 JAN 1822 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 9 NOV 1872 in North Street, Dalry


Elizabeth Reid
Birth 5 JUN 1813 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland Death


From a very reliable tree on Ancestry ,he's been doing his tree longer than me, now in Western Australia. Looks like he has retired to New Zealand.

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

1861
Name:
Charles Byron
Age:
18
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1843
Relationship:
Son (Child)
Father's name:
William Byron
Mother's name:
Elizabeth Byron
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Stevenston, Ayrshire
Registration Number:
587
Registration district:
Dalry
Civil Parish:
Dalry
County:
Ayrshire
Address:
Drakemere
Occupation:
Iron Miner
ED:
10
Household schedule number:
56
LINE:
13
Roll:
CSSCT1861_84
Household Members:
Name
Age
William Byron 39 -c1822 Stevenston-miner
Elizabeth Byron 47 -c1814Stevenston
Charles Byron 18
Elizabeth Byron 16
Robert Byron 14
John Byron 10
Margret Byron 8
William Byron 2


Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

After 1861 thanks.

Name: Joseph Russel
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birthplace: Stirlingshire
Registration District: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1842

Dave