Samuel & Frances YOUNG

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Mar Qtr 1870 Manchester 8d 400
YOUNG Samuel & STOCKDALE Frances Elizabeth


Looks to be the last of the births in NZ
1886/2200 Young Marion - Frances Elizabeth - Samuel


Looking for their deaths - NZ? or Vic. ?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

A couple of public trees pointing to these..

Frances Ellzth Young
Age: 39
Death Place: Hotham, Victoria
Father: Stocedale Jno
Mother: Frances Nash
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Number: 16198

Not validated..
Samuel Young
"Death
1928 Melbourne, Victoria"

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I'll see what else I can find besides arrival in NZ.

Dave

 

[horse]

Tree also pointing to this...

AMI:
Saml Young
Spouse: Antoinette Stocedale
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Number: 6292

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Stocedale Jno ?? Coincidence or I'm confused.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Marriages Mar Qtr 1870 Manchester 8d 400
YOUNG Samuel & STOCKDALE Frances Elizabeth

A image of the actual marriage cert.

https://familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/29978505

 

[gibbo]

Tree also pointing to this...

AMI:
Saml Young
Spouse: Antoinette Stocedale
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Number: 6292

Geoff

Event Death
Event registration number 12001
Registration year 1932
Family name YOUNG
Given names Antoinette
Father's name Stockdale George
Mother's name Frances (Nash)
Place of death Mpna
Age 72

 

[DaveHam9]

Samuel married sisters ?

STOCKDALE, FRANCES ELIZABETH - NASH
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in MANCHESTER & PRESTWICH Volume 20 Page 714



STOCKDALE, ANTOINETH - NASH
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 498

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1850
Stockdale John Manchester 20 507
Nash Frances Manchester 20 507


YOUNG Samuel EventDeath Father Young Wm Mother Unknown (Unknown) Reg. year1928 Reg. no17598

Place of death Warragul Age 79

 

[DaveHam9]

1871
RG10 Piece 4015 Folio 124 Page 35
Civil Parish: Broughton
Eccl. parish: St Mark
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Salford
Sub-RD: Broughton
ED: 19
No of Schedule: 214
Address: 28 Coke St
Ann Holgate Head Widow 47 Laundress Chesterfield Derbyshire
No of Schedule: 215
YOUNG Samuel Lodger Mar 21 Joiner Ireland
YOUNG Frances E Lodger Wife 19 Manchester Lancashire
YOUNG William A 2mo Manchester Lancashire


YOUNG, WILLIAM ALFRED - STOCKDALE
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 44

 

[DaveHam9]

One has John and the other has George.

An error or half-sisters?

 

[gibbo]

One has John and the other has George.

An error or half-sisters?

Yep i noticed that as well, im trying to find something on them.

 

[DaveHam9]

I think an error gibbo.

I can only find the marriage to John in England. If there is a George then was his marriage outside England?

Place of death Mpna = ?

 

[gibbo]

Event Death
Event registration number 3262
Registration year 1956
Family name YOUNG
Given names John George
Father's name YOUNG Samuel
Mother's name Frances Ellizabeth (Stockdale)
Place of birth LONDONDERRY NORTHERN IRELAND
Place of death SANDRINGHAM
Age 82

Springvale Botanical Cemetery Young John George Cremated 29/03/1956
The cremated remains have been scattered

 

[DaveHam9]

Where is Frances E in 1861? I can't find the family in England in 1861.

Looks to be first NZ birth 1878/7523 Young Clara - Frances Elizabeth - Samuel

 

[gibbo]

Where is Frances E in 1861?

Looks to be first NZ birth 1878/7523 Young Clara - Frances Elizabeth - Samuel

Nope a birth before her

1876/4922 Young Lydia Frances Elizabeth Samuel

All NZ births that i found.. not in order

1883/2632 Young Eleanor Frances Elizabeth Samuel - [died in 1888 VIC]
1886/2200 Young Marion Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1880/9810 Young Elizabeth Mary Frances Elizabeth Samuel
1878/7523 Young Clara Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1876/4922 Young Lydia Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1884/6619 Young Ethel Frances Elizabeth Samuel

Last birth in NZ 1886 and a death in VIC in 1888 therefore headed to Australia between them years.

 

[DaveHam9]

Nope a birth before her

1876/4922 Young Lydia Frances Elizabeth Samuel

All NZ births that i found.. not in order

1883/2632 Young Eleanor Frances Elizabeth Samuel - [died in 1888 VIC]
1886/2200 Young Marion Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1880/9810 Young Elizabeth Mary Frances Elizabeth Samuel
1878/7523 Young Clara Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1876/4922 Young Lydia Frances Elizabeth Samuel -
1884/6619 Young Ethel Frances Elizabeth Samuel

Thanks gibbo.

Yep. Lydia is the connection to my tree so her birth was in a different place in my tree.

Ireland abt 1874 and NZ 1876.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see the arrival in Vic. of any of them. Not assisted or unassisted with port N = NZ


John Stockdale & Frances in 1851 ? Married Manchester Dec Qtr 1850.

I can't find a death for Frances nee NASH, England, NZ or Vic.

 

[gibbo]

Im not finding any family notices for this lot

Got one but it dont help none.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)
Sat 7 Apr 1956

YOUNG.—On March 29, John George, loved stepfather of Freda and Len Walton, loving grandpa of Brian and Geoffrey, aged 82 years.
—Peacefully sleeping.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/71796234

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Yes, not finding much at all.