SANDS family from Cowbridge

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I would like someone to re-transcribe this:

Parish church of Llandough-juxta-Cowbridge:

Here/lieth the body of JOHN SANDS,/ He died the 8th of Sep 1784./ aged 94./ and/ ELIZABETH wife of the above./ She died the 29th of June 1795/ aged 81./ and likewise WILLIAM son of /WILLIAM and ANN SANDS of this/ parish and grand-son of the/ said JOHN and ELIZABETH SANDS/ who died the 28th Dec 1809/ aged 36./ Also the last said/ WILLIAM SANDS who died/ the 12th of Sept 1827/ aged 76./ and also CATHERINE wife/ of the last name WILLIAM/ SANDS who died Jan 3rd/ 1844, aged 72 years.

Thanks. :2fun:

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Anyone up for this challenge? :2fun:

 

[jay]

Hello,

I would like someone to re-transcribe this:

Parish church of Llandough-juxta-Cowbridge:

Here/lieth the body of JOHN SANDS,/ He died the 8th of Sep 1784./ aged 94./ and/ ELIZABETH wife of the above./ She died the 29th of June 1795/ aged 81./ and likewise WILLIAM son of /WILLIAM and ANN SANDS of this/ parish and grand-son of the/ said JOHN and ELIZABETH SANDS/ who died the 28th Dec 1809/ aged 36./ Also the last said/ WILLIAM SANDS who died/ the 12th of Sept 1827/ aged 76./ and also CATHERINE wife/ of the last name WILLIAM/ SANDS who died Jan 3rd/ 1844, aged 72 years.

Thanks. :2fun:

Dave

Here lies the body of John Sands. He died the 8th September 1784 aged 94 and his wife Elizabeth who died 29th June 1795, aged 81. Buried here too is William, son of William and Anne Sands of this parish, the grandson of the aforementioned John and Elizabeth Sands, who died 28th December 1809 aged 36. Also the last mentioned William Sands who died 12th September 1827 aged 76 and also Catherine his wife who died January 3rd 1844, aged 72 years.
As I read it Dave I would say that Catherine was a second wife looking at the age differential. Anne may have been buried in another parish nearby. I know this area quite well and there are many small country churches names after early celtic saints. Hope this is what you wanted.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Jay,

Thanks but that's not exactly what I was after. I don't understand the difference between 'last name' and 'last said' so I have come to this conclusion based on matching calculated birth dates.

John d. 8 Sep 1784 age 94 b. 1690
spouse Elizabeth d. 29 Jun 1795 age 81 b. 1714

they married ??


son William d. 12 Sep 1827 age 76 b. 1751
spouse Ann [THOMAS] d. ? age ? b.

they married ??


grandson of John - William d. 28 Dec 1809 age 36 b. 1773
spouse Catherine d. 3 Jan 1844 age 72 b. 1772

they married ??


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Working backwards from these can a marriage be found for William & Catherine?

Jane Sands
christening: 5 Jan 1797 LLANDOUGH,​GLAMORGAN,​WALES
parents: William Sands,​ Catharine

Catharine Sands
christening: 8 Jul 1798 LLANDOUGH,​GLAMORGAN,​WALES
parents: William Sands,​ Catharine

John Sands
christening: 11 Jan 1801 LLANDOUGH,​GLAMORGAN,​WALES
parents: William Sands,​ Catharine

Margaret Sands
christening: 27 Sep 1804 LLANDOUGH,​GLAMORGAN,​WALES
parents: William Sands,​ Catharine

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: William Sands
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1827
Event Place: Llandough-J-Cowbridge, Glamorgan, Wales
Address: Parsonage
Age: 76
Occupation:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Note:

Name: William Jr Sands
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1809
Event Place: Llandough-J-Cowbridge, Glamorgan, Wales
Address:
Age: 36
Occupation:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Note:

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: William Sands
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 19 Sep 1773
Event Place: Cowbridge, St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name:
GS Film number:
Digital Folder Number: 004376996

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm sure the trees have it all wrong. They have William b. 1773 with siblings born 1801 and 1804.

I can't find any of the three marriages.

1841 Wales Census
HO107 Piece 1416 Book/Folio 9/4 Page 33
Llandough, Glamorgan, Wales
Village Llandough
John Sands, 40 Farmer, Glamorgan, Wales
Ellen Sands, 29 Glamorgan, Wales
William Sands, 4 Glamorgan, Wales
John Sands, 20m Glamorgan, Wales
Catherine Sands, 70 Glamorgan, Wales
Sophia Sands, 17 Glamorgan, Wales
Jenkins, Catherine F 14 Female Servant
Llewellyn, William M 14 Ag Lab

 

[jay]

Hello Jay,

Thanks but that's not exactly what I was after. I don't understand the difference between 'last name' and 'last said' so I have come to this conclusion based on matching calculated birth dates.

John d. 8 Sep 1784 age 94 b. 1690
spouse Elizabeth d. 29 Jun 1795 age 81 b. 1714

they married ??


son William d. 12 Sep 1827 age 76 b. 1751
spouse Ann [THOMAS] d. ? age ? b.

they married ??




grandson of John - William d. 28 Dec 1809 age 36 b. 1773
spouse Catherine d. 3 Jan 1844 age 72 b. 1772

they married ??


Dave

" last name " = the father not the son and "last said " another reference to William the father.

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

The trees have him married to Elizabeth Wilson b. 1714 - d.1795 in 1746.

This may or may or may not be some help...

Quote from story from Anc. trees.

"Transcript of the Will of John Sands
, Will proved at Llandaff 14 April 1785
In the name of God amen. I John Sands of the parish of Llandough near Cowbridge in the County of Glamorgan yeoman being well in body and of sound mind memory and understanding praise be to God Do make and ordain this my last will and Testament in manner following/ that is to say/ I give and bequeath to the Revd William Willis of Gileston in the said County the sum of Four Hundred Pounds to be paid him within one month next after my decease In trust nevertheless That he the said William Willis his Executors or administrators do and shall lay out the same at Interest on the best Security and Rate of Interest he can, and shall pay such Interest as the same shall be received to my beloved wife Elizabeth Sands for and during the term of her natural Life in case she continues unmarried and from and after her decease or marriage which shall first happen I give and bequeath the Interest of Two Hundred Pounds part of the said sum of Four Hundred Pounds to my son William Sands during the term of his natural life (it being my intention that the same shall be a provision for him for life) and from and after his decease I give and bequeath the said sum of Two Hundred Pounds to my Grandaughters Mary and Elizabeth Hooper the daughters of William Hooper deceased to be equally divided between them share and share alike when and as they respectively attain the age of twenty one years and in case either of them shall happen to dye before the attainment of that age then the said Two Hundred Pounds shall be paid to the Survivor of them on the attainment of the age aforesaid and I Do Direct that the Interest thereof shall be laid our in their maintenance and Education during their minority. I give and Bequeath all the rest and residue of my personal Estate that I shall Die possessed of or entitled unto to my said wife Elizabeth Sands for her sole use and Benefit for ever and I Do hereby nominate and appoint my said wife Elizabeth sole Executrix of this my last will and Testament hereby revoking all former wills by me made and declaring this to be my last In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this fifth day of July one Thousand and Seven Hundred and Eighty Three.

The mark of John x Sands"

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That's a good bit to add to my tree.

One tree had Ann's name as THOMAS but I can't find any of the marriages apart from John to Ellen WILLIAMS in 1836.

Dave

 

[horse]

Probably going to need the parish reg' for the marriages... plenty of info on offspring in FS & IGI. William's wife just says Ann, no surname.

 

[horse]

FreeREG
County Glamorganshire
Place Flemingston
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 03 Feb 1746
Groom Forename John
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Flemingston
Bride Forename Elizabeth
Bride Surname WILSON
Bride Parish Flemingston
FileNumber 28086

Geoff

 

[horse]

FreeREG:
County Glamorganshire
Place Saint Mary Church
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 31 Aug 1769
Groom Forename William
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Llandough
Bride Forename Ann
Bride Surname THOMAS
Bride Parish St Mary Church
FileNumber 28102

 

[horse]

This is also interesting..

FreeREG:
County Glamorganshire
Place Colwinstone
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 08 Feb 1796
Groom Forename William
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Landough
Bride Forename Catherine
Bride Surname WILLIAMS
Notes By licence
FileNumber 28167

The trees have Ann's death at 1803..

 

[DaveHam9]

FreeREG
County Glamorganshire
Place Flemingston
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 03 Feb 1746
Groom Forename John
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Flemingston
Bride Forename Elizabeth
Bride Surname WILSON
Bride Parish Flemingston
FileNumber 28086

Geoff

Thanks Geoff.

John born abt 1690. Died 1784 age 94.

William born 1751.

 

[DaveHam9]

FreeREG:
County Glamorganshire
Place Saint Mary Church
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 31 Aug 1769
Groom Forename William
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Llandough
Bride Forename Ann
Bride Surname THOMAS
Bride Parish St Mary Church
FileNumber 28102

That fits place and name and not long before before a 1773 birth.

 

[DaveHam9]

This is also interesting..

FreeREG:
County Glamorganshire
Place Colwinstone
Church Parish Church
Marriage Date 08 Feb 1796
Groom Forename William
Groom Surname SANDS
Groom Parish Landough
Bride Forename Catherine
Bride Surname WILLIAMS
Notes By licence
FileNumber 28167

The trees have Ann's death at 1803..

Thanks.

One tree has Ann's death as 1787.

 

[horse]

The 1803 death is too young (21y) must be a daughter or...

County Glamorganshire
Place Llandough-Juxta-Cowbridge
Church St Dochdwy
BurialDate 10 Jul 1803
Forename Anne
Surname SANDS
Age 21
FileNumber 26848

 

[horse]

Thanks.

One tree has Ann's death as 1787.

Yes, more like it if married Catherine...