SANDS family in Dunfermline in 1871

[DaveHam9]

I'd like a look up please for the following SANDS family in Dunfermline in 1871.

John b. 1823 Torryburn [ d. 1904]
Janet b. 1825 Abercorn [ d. 1911]
Alexander b. 1850 Dunfermline
James b. 1853 Dunfermline
Adrian b. 1862 Dunfermline

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Civil parish Dunfermline Lanward
Address North Row

John Sands age 46 head occ slater born Torryburn
Janet wife age 45 born Jociely (should this be Society)
Alex son age 20 occ slater born Jociely
James son age 18 occ slater born Dunfermline
Adrian son age 9 born Charlestown

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thank you very much. Yes it is Society for Janet. I have Alexander born in Dunfermline and the 1881 census had:
"Alexander Sands head age 28 occ slater born Dunfermline"

Marriage: FR4923 24 Jan 1848 Dunfermline - Posted Banns 8 Jan 1848 Abercorn, W Lothian FR1257

It will be interesting to see if we can find the first two children who died before 28 May 1855. There was a son born abt 1848 and another born abt 1849.

Please see if you can find the family in 1851. It may be Abercorn if Alex was actually born in Society but probably Dunfermline.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Civil parish Dunfermline
Address 5, Appin Terrace

John Sands head age 28 occ slater journeyman born Torryburn
Janet wife age 26 occ straw bonnet maker born Society
Alexander son age 7mths born Society

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thank you very much. Curious. I wonder why the family tree has the deaths of the first two sons as "before 28 May 1855" when neither appear in the 1851 census?

Perhaps Alexander was born in Society but his birth registered in Dunfermline? The fiche in Dunfermline Library had 'FR4193 Dunfermline'.

I'd like the family in 1861 next please.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

I havnt been able to locate them in 1861. Will have another look later on.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Ok, thanks. There should be two children there in 1861 Alexander and James.

Adrian was born in Charlestown in 1862 so they could be there and not in Dunfermline town.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

If you can't find them in 1861 then please try 1881. Alexander will be gone because he married in 1874. James and Adrian are probably still there.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

1861

Civil parish Dunfermline Lanward
Address Charlestown Village

Name transcribed as Lands

John L(S)ands head age 34 occ slater born Torryburn
Janet wife age 33 born Society
Alexander son age 10 born Society
James age 8 born Dunfermline

 

[juliejtp]

1881

Civil parish Dunfermline
Address Private House

John Sands head age 57 occ slater born Torryburn
Janet wife age 56 born Society
James son age 27 occ slater born Dunfermline
Adrian son age 19 occ slater born Charlestown

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thank you very much. Well, it was Charlestown. Yet another census that has Alexander born in Society. Curious, because I viewed the fiche in Dunfermline Library and it says 'FR4193 Dunfermline'. Their first two sons died between 1848 and the 1851 census and so far I can't find a birth for either of them. Perhaps not registered?? because I have no given names for either.

Adrian married in 1890 and you have already given me the 1891 and 1901 for him and spouse Mary.

Please see if you can find John, Janet and James in 1891.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

1891

Civil parish Dunfermline
Address North Row

John Sands head age 70 occ slater born Torryburn
Janet wife age 68 born Society
James sona ge 36 occ harbour labourer born Dunfermline
Charlotte Sands age 9 g/dau born Glasgow

And in anticipation here they are in 1901

Civil parish Dunfermline
Address North Row

John Sands head age 77 occ retired slater born Torryburn
Janet wife age 76 (has pob as So Queensferry Linlithgow)
James son age 47 occ slater born Dunfermline
Charlotte g/dau age 40 (aged 30yrs) occ helping at home born Glasgow

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thank you very much. Yes, I was going to ask for 1901 next.

It seems Janet was born in the hamlet of Society on the coast just from Abercorn. The fiche in Dunfermline Library had this:
b: 5 Mar 1825 FR1190 Child 3 Abercorn

Grand daughter Charlotte is Catherine Charlotte McDonald SANDS born on 4 Aug 1880 Hutchesontown, Glasgow to parents Alexander and Catherine. I'd say her age is or should be shown as 20 in the census. Curiously, she is the only one of 8 who is with her grand parents.

It is said she married a John MORTON but the only reference I can find is a privately submitted IGI entry for a marriage to a John MORT in 1898 in Glasgow. Something is not quite right.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Please see if you can find John MORT and spouse Charlotte or as her first given name Catherine in 1901 Glasgow, Lanark.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Found this John Mort in 1901 lodger.

Civil parish Old Kilpatrick
Town Clydebank
County Dumbartonshire
Address 19 Blythswood View


John Mort age 26 occ red leader born Glasgow

Head of household is a William Jones plus his family.

Havnt been able to locate Charlotte/Catherine.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thanks for looking. Charlotte/Catherine lived to about 80. It's all very curious.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Dave,

Have you Catherine/Charlottes details dob, pob.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Yes,

Catherine Charlotte McDonald SANDS born 4 Aug 1880 Hutchestontown, Lanark

3rd of 8 to parents Alexander and Catherine McDONALD.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

I've had another look for still cant find her.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thanks for looking again. Oh, when I said I knew she lived to be about 80 I failed to say it looks as though she died in Dunfermline, Fife.

Regards,

Dave