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Scottish or English marriage?

duckweed

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I can't find the marriage of the Rev John Heelis and Esther Martin both from Westmorland. Esther was born in Patterdale in 1827 and John was born in 1826 in Dufton. They were last seen as single in 1851, both in the same house. Esther's father was the church warden and John was the assistant curate. John got his own charge in Oban Scotland in 1854 to 1858. Esther and John had a daughter Jane Lorraine in 1856 in Oban. So where did they marry? Can't find them on the English BMD. So did John go ahead to earn a bit of money and make the Manse ready and then they married in Oban? Is there a way to look up Scottish marriages free? Only need the place and date. I already know the rest of the info.
 
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I can't find the marriage of the Rev John Heelis and Esther Martin .... So did John go ahead to earn a bit of money and make the Manse ready and then they married in Oban? Is there a way to look up Scottish marriages free? Only need the place and date. I already know the rest of the info.
Hi Duckweed

I've just searched SP for you with the names you gave from 1855-1933 and there are NO MATCHES ... sorry! Are the names spelt correctly? SP is quite a 'pedantic' site when it comes to surnames. You'll get away with the first one or two letters of a forename however as you can elect to look for
"Return all forenames that begin with these characters"

I also did a search for 'Esther Martin' and a spouse 'John' and got 2 matches - one of which was in 1892 in Lanarkshire : Blythswood The other was later.

Blythswood is an area of Glasgow that appears in a lot of searches and seems to have been a 'popular' Registry Office in its day!

You can search SP without paying but you will need to buy credits to see the list of possible matches (1 Credit) and then the actual documents (5 Credits).

What you need to do is enter the details you have in whichever one of the options you are looking for - Births, Marriages, Deaths, Census, etc. - and click 'SEARCH'. You will then find out if there are any matches for the names. From there you can select each 'County' in turn until you get the match and then search the 'District' five at a time to narrow it down a bit more and then each one of the five until you get a result!

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Chiad Fhear
 
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duckweed

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Thanks for trying. I put in Heelis surname and discovered 4 entries 1 marriage and 3 births. So that started me looking for 2 other scottish children. They were hiding with grandparents down as their daughters. The list that includes the Heelis marriage only starts in 1855. The first child is down as 1855, the second 1856 and third in 1856. They left in 1858 and the 4th child was born in May 1858 so it looks like they were married in the first quarter of 1855 by process of elimination'
 
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... The list that includes the Heelis marriage only starts in 1855 ...
Hi Duckweed

If you're convinced they married in Scotland you could also try the Old Parish Registers search facility on ScotlandsPeople. Not every parish kept records pre-1855 (unfortunatley) but on the other hand ... :)

Scottish record keeping began formally in 1855 and are recorded by the actual date unlike the English records that are 'broken down' initially into quarters.

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