Searching for BANWELL,RICKARDS,BANGER

[Eva]

Any info greatly appreciated for surnames Banwell,Rickards & Banger.

 

[pee wee]

Hi Eva,

Do you have any dates & places to go with your names?

Talk to you soon

Peta

PS. Just read your other post. I know a family of Banwells in South Australia. Could be just coincidence but you never know

 

[Eva]

Hi Pee wee,thank you for your reply.
With reference to Australia,i have a photocopy of an extract listing Australian immigrants from Somerset,England in early 1800`s. Mary Ann 42 (daughter of John Banwell & Mary Coles of Kewstoke,Weston-super-Mare,Somerset) who was married to Emanuel Watts 38(son of Thomas & Susannah of Worle).
Mary Ann,Emanuel & children James(baptised Sept 26th 1830),John(bap feb 3rd 1833),Thomas(bap mar 22nd1835),Mary Ann,Elizabeth,Daniel,Emanuel & Hannah emmigrated to Australia
The parents & John were employed by a Thomas Barrett who had a market garden on the banks of the Merri creek at Pentridge.
Thomas married a Sarah Anne Banwell in 1858(also from Worle)whose parents were John Banwell & Ann Barrett-they had 15 children not sure how many went to Australia,think poss also Joseph born 1837. Young Emanuel married Elizabeth Banwell(sister to Sarah) in Queensland in 1864.(The Watts family spent 7 yrs in Queensland,where Emanuel died in 1863.Mary Anne died 10yrs later,after returning to Victoria.)Have no info on the male Banwells from there..

With reference to U.S.A i believe there could be a link to Banwells in the Rockford,Illinios area.
I have quite a lot of info on the Banwell family trees(my maiden name) that were passed to me a few years ago but its quite long & complicated for a beginner to work through.Would be interesting to know if there is a connection to the Banwell family you know of.Many Thanks Eva

 

[Ig8a]

Hi Pee wee,thank you for your reply.
With reference to Australia,i have a photocopy of an extract listing Australian immigrants from Somerset,England in early 1800`s. Mary Ann 42 (daughter of John Banwell & Mary Coles of Kewstoke,Weston-super-Mare,Somerset) who was married to Emanuel Watts 38(son of Thomas & Susannah of Worle).
Mary Ann,Emanuel & children James(baptised Sept 26th 1830),John(bap feb 3rd 1833),Thomas(bap mar 22nd1835),Mary Ann,Elizabeth,Daniel,Emanuel & Hannah emmigrated to Australia
The parents & John were employed by a Thomas Barrett who had a market garden on the banks of the Merri creek at Pentridge.
Thomas married a Sarah Anne Banwell in 1858(also from Worle)whose parents were John Banwell & Ann Barrett-they had 15 children not sure how many went to Australia,think poss also Joseph born 1837. Young Emanuel married Elizabeth Banwell(sister to Sarah) in Queensland in 1864.(The Watts family spent 7 yrs in Queensland,where Emanuel died in 1863.Mary Anne died 10yrs later,after returning to Victoria.)Have no info on the male Banwells from there..

With reference to U.S.A i believe there could be a link to Banwells in the Rockford,Illinios area.
I have quite a lot of info on the Banwell family trees(my maiden name) that were passed to me a few years ago but its quite long & complicated for a beginner to work through.Would be interesting to know if there is a connection to the Banwell family you know of.Many Thanks Eva

Eva,

I am researching the WATTS family mentioned. A daughter Elizabeth Sarah WATTS married John Charles REICH (aka Johann Carl Anton Siegmund REICH) at Pentridge in 1855 and moved to Adelaide in 1856. Their daughter Maryanne was my great grandmother. I have very little on the movements of Elizabeth's brothers John and James WATTS, but noted that Mary Ann (Watts) HARDING also moved to Queensland in 1863, shortly before her parents and some siblings also moved there. The HARDING family departed Victoria on the "Balclutha" on the 5th March 1863, and the WATTS family departed on the "City of Melbourne" on 23rd April 1863. I presume that the shift north was for health reasons as Emanuel died shortly after they arrived. Also, the HARDINGs had three Victorian born children die before they moved.

Cheers

Ig

 

[Dee]

Also Searching for Banwell. Rose & William came to Canada around 1920's. Other siblings were Daisy, May, Edward, & Percy. They were from Somerset. Can you help?

 

[Ig8a]

Dee, Do you have approximate dates of birth for these siblings? I have found a Rose and William BANWELL independently travelling on the "Melita" out of Southampton on 21 Feb 1927 for St John, NB. Ages given were slightly below a family that I found in the 1891 Census with an Annie BANWELL (35), Emily J (13),Alice F (10), Elizabeth A (9), Rose (7), Daisy (5), William J (3) and May (10 mo). Annie is the wife of a Shipyard Mechanic , absent , and the family is living at High St, Beckingham, Lincs, with the last two children born there and the others born in East London. Annie was born in Swindon, Wiltshire. While I realise that this is a long way from Somerset, the sequential births of four of the siblings you are seeking is in itself a remarkable event.

 

[dochines]

I notice your interest in the name Hines as well, My Hines line originates from East Anglia, specifically Suffolk . I also have a large database of Hines world wide ( some 10,000 now ) I would be interested in seeing if we can help one another.

Best wishes

Dochines

 

[Ig8a]

Dochines,
I don't know if I can be of much assistance. This is one of my brick walls. My HINES links are through Mary Ann HINES born c1841 in Somerset. She migrated to South Australia in 1858 from Somerset on the "North". Information on her immediate family is somewhat sketchy. The best lead that I have is that she had an uncle William HINES with a son called John Nelmes HINES. John was born c1836. Not much to go on but Nelmes must have some history.

Cheers

Ig

 

[dochines]

I do have something in my database for a John Nelmes Hines which may give you some leads.

Supplement to London Gazette 4th Feb. 1918. lists him as a Lt. in the New Zealand Force, Otago R.

and in the supplement to the London Gazette on 5th July 1918

" For conspicous gallentry and devotion to duty. Though wounded early in an attack he continued to lead his men forward in the face of heavy machine gun fire. Although his company suffered many casualties he pushed forward and enveloped the left flank of an enemy stronghold. He was again seriously wounded and unable to advance further, but he established his men in a good position and enabled them to hold all the captured ground."

I have made a note in my database of your interests and will of course let you know if I get any other leads.

best wishes


dochines

 

[dochines]

another Snippet for you


John Nelmes Hines married Ella Violet Tucker 1920 New Zealand folio no 6463.


this is probably a grandson of "your" John Nelmes Hines born 1836. And prbably the same one as mentioned in the London Gazette.


dochines

 

[Ig8a]

Dochines,
Thanks for the info. I was aware of this individual and assumed as you have that he is a couple of generations later. I have been looking for Hines movements in shipping records to establish when this branch moved to NZ but yet to determine. "My" JNH died on 7/8/1906 at Unley Park, SA.

Ig

 

[desone]

Hi,

My name is Des from Brisbane, Australia. I can answer some of the queries about Banwell and Watts in Australia.

Elizabeth Banwell married Emanuel Watts in 1864 in Toowoomba in Queensland.

They lived at Elizabeth Street, Rosalie, Brisbane. I have just checked the google map, but unfortunately the house has been demolished. I may be able to locate a photo of the old house. I can recall visiting it as a young child of about 3 to 4 years of age.

Both Elizabeth Watts and Emanuel Watts are buried at Toowong cemetary, Brisbane.

Emanuel Watts was about 72 years old when he died on 15 June, 1912.
Elizabeth Watts was 93 years old when she died on 21 October, 1931.

Emanuel and Elizabeth Watts were my great grandparents on my mother's side.

My grandmother was Florence Georgina Heneretta Watts died in about 1962. She was born in 1883 and was the youngest of 9 children.

You can search the grave sites yourself at this web site.
https://online.brisbane.qld.gov.au/cemeteries/cemeteries_step1.jsp

If you search Emanuel Watts at Toowong at this site you will get three results. One for Emanuel, one for Elizabeth and the final one for one of their sons Ernest George Watts who died on 25 July, 1944 aged 72 years.

Ernest had two sons both of whom were killed in WWI. One was killed in Gallopili in 1915 (aged 22 years) and the other one in 1918 (aged 22 years). The one who died last won a military medal and his exploits are recorded on the Australian war memorial site and also a British site - which I havent leen able to locate again.

I have access family photos of Emmanuel and Elizabeth Watts which I can email on request. I also have a very good photo of my mothers uncle Ernie with his two sons in uniform prior to departure overseas in 1915.

 

[desone]

Hi Pee wee,thank you for your reply.
With reference to Australia,i have a photocopy of an extract listing Australian immigrants from Somerset,England in early 1800`s. Mary Ann 42 (daughter of John Banwell & Mary Coles of Kewstoke,Weston-super-Mare,Somerset) who was married to Emanuel Watts 38(son of Thomas & Susannah of Worle).
Mary Ann,Emanuel & children James(baptised Sept 26th 1830),John(bap feb 3rd 1833),Thomas(bap mar 22nd1835),Mary Ann,Elizabeth,Daniel,Emanuel & Hannah emmigrated to Australia
The parents & John were employed by a Thomas Barrett who had a market garden on the banks of the Merri creek at Pentridge.
Thomas married a Sarah Anne Banwell in 1858(also from Worle)whose parents were John Banwell & Ann Barrett-they had 15 children not sure how many went to Australia,think poss also Joseph born 1837. Young Emanuel married Elizabeth Banwell(sister to Sarah) in Queensland in 1864.(The Watts family spent 7 yrs in Queensland,where Emanuel died in 1863.Mary Anne died 10yrs later,after returning to Victoria.)Have no info on the male Banwells from there..

With reference to U.S.A i believe there could be a link to Banwells in the Rockford,Illinios area.
I have quite a lot of info on the Banwell family trees(my maiden name) that were passed to me a few years ago but its quite long & complicated for a beginner to work through.Would be interesting to know if there is a connection to the Banwell family you know of.Many Thanks Eva

Emanuel Watts is a direct descendant of mine. Mary Anne did not return to Victoria, as you stated, but did die about 10 years after Emanuel.

Burial Record
Family Name WATTS
Given Names EMANUEL
Gender Male
Religion
Age at Death
Date of Death 22 July 1863
Next of Kin
Date of Burial 30 November -0001
Undertaker Other
Unknown
Minister of Religion
Burial Number 10PR
Cemetery Drayton
Location Section: CE OLD 1, Block: R4, Allotment: 13
View map of CE OLD 1

Burial Record
Family Name Watts
Given Names Mary Ann
Gender Female
Religion Unknown
Age at Death 67
Date of Death 17 November 1873
Next of Kin
Date of Burial 19 November 1873
Undertaker Other
C T Edwards
Minister of Religion A Midgley
Burial Number A952
Cemetery Drayton
Location Section: Unknown, Block: , Allotment:
Other Interments
Headstone Unknown
Adornments

Both are buried in the Toowoomba cemetery.

To make things more complicated, Emanuel Watts (junior) also married an Elizabeth Banwell. They were married in Toowoomba in 1864. You say that elder brother Thomas, also married a Sarah Ann Banwell in 1858.

This conforms with this information, which I found.

Family Name
Given Name
Age
Month
Year
Ship
Book Page
BANWELL ELIZABETH 19 FEB 1863 IVANHOE 13A 195
BANWELL ELIZABETH 19 FEB 1863 IVANHOE 14 187
BANWELL SARAH A 22 AUG 1857 UNDAUNTED 13 7

Elizabeth Watts is my great grandmother. She died in 1931 aged 93 and is buried in Toowong Cemetery, in Brisbane.

Graves where the last burial occured more than 30 years ago may be available for reuse by direct descendants and immediate family. Please contact 3407 8128 for more details.
Watts Emanuel 15 / 06 / 1912 Unknown
Watts Ernest George 25 / 07 / 1944 72 years
Watts Elizabeth 21 / 10 / 1931 93 years

As you can see Emanuel (junior) died in 1912.

I am keen to research the background of this Elizabeth Watts (Banwell) further. I am aware that she came from a large family in Worle, Somerset.

If you want any further information you can email me on: desone at optusnet.com.au

 

[barratay]

Hi, The Banwell, Watts info is interesting especially this - "The HARDING family departed Victoria on the "Balclutha" on the 5th March 1863, and the WATTS family departed on the "City of Melbourne" on 23rd April 1863."

I am tracing the Watts sisters who married the Harding brothers and I found this recently ..The Argus 14 Feb 1863 - "SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21.Opportunity for Making the Finest Investment in Victoria. For Positive Unreserved Auction.17 Acres of Land, Three Stone Houses, Three Brick, also fine Orchard and Kitchen-Garden, having a frontage of 6+1/2 chains to Bell street and 6+1/2 chains to Wesleyan-lane, Pentridge. J. H. KNIPE is authorized by Emanuel Watts (who is determined to leave the colony immediately) to SELL by AUCTION, on the ground, at the above date, at two o'clock prompt, Valuable freehold property, being Allotments 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, part of portion Section 140, parish of Jika Jika, adjoining the Pentridge Hotel, and directly opposite the National School-17 acres of first-class garden ground (chocolate and black soil) ; the whole cleared from stumps and stones, enclosed by a substantial paling fence, and under cultivation ; some thousands of fruit-trees of the choicest kinds are planted, forming a beautiful orchard The improvements erected on this property are extensive, embracing three Stone houses, three brick houses, outbuildings, &c, all let to respectable tenants. An Inspection of this property will well repay you.For the convenience of all parties, this property will be sold in three lots. The maps of subdivision may be seen at the auctioneer's office, the Pentridge Hotel, or at Mr. Watt's cottage.Be sure to attend the auction. For further particulars apply to J. H. Knipe, auctioneer and valuer, 35 Little Collins-street west; or to Mr. Watt. Note - The Yan Yean is laid on to supply all the dwelling houses and garden with water."

Regards from Wayne Brown