SHERRIFF family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1881
Civil parish Glasgow Barony
Address: 552 St Vincent St
Alexr D Sherriff age 37 occ sculptor
Elizabeth wife age 42
Elizabeth J dau age 12
David I L son age 10
Edward son age 8
William age 4mths

Death 3136/1939 SHERRIFF DAVID JAMES POWRIE - ALEXANDER DICKSON - ELIZABETH - ANNADALE

So Alexr D = Alexander Dickson
and Elizabeth J = Elizabeth/Elisabeth Jarvie/Jarvis
and David I L = David James Powrie

NSW Marriage 2341/1901 SHERRIFF DAVID J P - DAY HARRIET M - WAVERLEY

Arrived before 1901 ???

 

[gibbo]

Can we narrow the years down any Dave? Were they found on the 1891 census?

 

[DaveHam9]

No they were not. So it's looking more like Unassisted.

Alexander was working in Sydney in 1901. I don't have anything earlier on him yet.

Finding nothing before 1901 in TROVE that helps.

 

[gibbo]

Not sure if this is Alexander in VIC in 1891. In trouble for not sending his kids to school.


Yea Chronicle (Yea, Vic. : 1891 - 1920)(about)
Thursday 16 July 1891

etc etc Alexander Sherriff, 2s. 6il., or six hsours' imprisos::ent, being a first offence ; etc etc

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks. Yes I did find that one. Sort of ruled it out because Alexander was a sculptor. Expected to see him in Sydney or Melbourne.

 

[gibbo]

Got them here in 1894

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)(about]
Wednesday 23 May 1894

Tio New Burns Statue -The statue of Robert Burns lately acquired bv the trusteos of the National Arc Gallery now stands in tho Aus- tralian Court This w ork is an original concep- tion by Mr D J P Sherriff of Annandale a i young sculptor of 22 vears of ago who, though ' not born in Australia has received his sole art education irom his father whilst resident in thin countrv Several statues of the Scottish poot ure ulrcadv in existence, out thoy nil differ from ' Sherriff's dosiira, in which the figure is wholly unsupported The

 

[gibbo]

What do you think of this one?

Name: David Sheriff
Birth: abt 1871
Origin: Forfarshire, Scotland
Departure: London, England
Arrival: 26 Jul 1887 - Brisbane

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

That fits for name, age and origin but not hair colour. :2fun:

Actually, it's his sister Elisabeth J who is in my tree.

So it looks as if they didn't arrive together.

 

[gibbo]

Now you gone and got all techinal on me and want Elizabeth mainly? :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

I thought they would be found together but it seems not so.

We know Alexander and 2x Elizabeth also arrived. I don't know about Edward and William.

Oh. I've just noticed a whole heap of SHERIFF on the 'Dacca' 26 Jul 1887. Names that are not part of the family in the census. George 43 and Jane 41 and children. David could well be a cousin and not the one in my tree.

 

[gibbo]

I cant find any other family with him at the moment. Pity it didnt have the name of the ship.
I have to duck out for a bit but when i get back i'll have another look :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

SHERIFF Alexander 9 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Ann 21 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Arthur 2 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF David 16 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF George 19 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF George 43 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Isabella 23 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Jane 12 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Jane 41 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Jos 14 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF Margaret 7 Dacca 26 Jul 1887 IMM/122 167 Z1963 M1702, M1703
SHERIFF William 18 Dacca 26 Jul 1887

I dont think its the right family.

 

[DaveHam9]

Found something.

Elizabeth Jarvie arrived Sydney "Orient" 23 April 1883 when 14. ?

After 14 years in Arbroath and Glasgow they decided to emigrate and Alexander arrived in Sydney on ?Cotopaxe? on 27th April 1882 as 3rd class passenger.·. Alexander was 39 YO at the time. His 43 YO wife Elizabeth, daughter Elizabeth Jarvie 13 YO, sons, David 12 YO, Edward 9 YO, and William infant followed later.

COTOPAXL
OF LIVERPOOL, R. STUDDERT, MASTER, BURTHEN 4027 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF LONDON TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 27 APRIL 1882
...
SHERRIFF A LABOURER PASSENGER 3RD CLASS


This does not add up. Name is Emma and 3 not 4 children ???

ORIENT
OF GLASGOW, W. MORRISON, MASTER, BURTHEN 3440 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF LONDON TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES
23RD APRIL, 1883
...
SHERRIFF EMMA PASSENGER 3rd CLASS
SHERRIFF CHILD 1 PASSENGER 3rd CLASS
SHERRIFF CHILD 2 PASSENGER 3rd CLASS
SHERRIFF CHILD 3 PASSENGER 3rd CLASS

 

[gibbo]

Gee i've been gone hours and this is as far as you got? :2fun::2fun::2fun:

Ok jokes aside where we up to?

 

[gibbo]

I see what you mean about the Orient passenger list. Pity we cant see the actual copy on the off chance there have been errors made.

 

[DaveHam9]

We can see the actual copy and that is what the original says. I can't find another SHER(R)IFF family on the Mariners site so perhaps the infant didn't count but even then Emma does not sound like Elizabeth, so I don't know.