Silvester Henry John Dunn

[chelle p]

I know he was born 1880 in Bridport Dorset. I know his dad was also Silvester Dunn, but have no idea on a mothers name x

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Births Dec Qtr 1880
DUNN Silvester Henry J Bridport 5a 358


Marriages Jun Qtr1874
Cleal Honor Dorchester 5a 667
DUNN Silvester Dorchester 5a 667


1881
RG11 Piece 2124 Folio 62 Page 8
Name: Silvester Dunn
Age : 42
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1839
Birthplace: Bridport, Dorset, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Rope Maker And Inn Keeper
Address: Woodman Inn South St
Bridport, Dorsetshire, England
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Silvester Dunn M 42 Bridport, Dorset, England
Wife Honor Dunn F 41 Stoke Abbott, Dorset, England
Daughter Emily Dunn F 5 Bridport, Dorset, England
Son William Dunn M 3 Bridport, Dorset, England
Son John Dunn M 1 Bridport, Dorset, England
Son Henry Dunn M 0 Bridport, Dorset, England
Nephew Thomas Stone M 21 Bridport, Dorset, England
Servant Eliza Darby F 18 Puncknowle, Dorset, England

 

[chelle p]

Thank you

I did have the incorrect information down then. I dont suppose you could do one more search for me and see if you can find Silvester and Honors marriage to find their parents please Will understand if you cant or dont want to x

 

[davelambert271]

Louisa Freeman
William Dunn
Event Type Marriage
Event Date11 Oct 1835
Event Place Bridport, Dorset, England


Silvester William Dunn
England, Dorset, Parish Registers, 1538-1936
christening: 4 November 1838 Bridport, Bridport, Dorset, England
parents:William Dunn, Louisa Dunn


it looks as if William may have been married twice, needs further investigation. This site may help you
https://familysearch.org/search/rec...+birth_place:bridport~ +birth_year:1830-1840~

dave
1851
DUNN, William Head Married M 34 1817 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Mary Wife Married F 32 1819 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Amelia Daughter F 14 1837 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Silvester Son M 11 1840 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Elias Son M 8 1843 Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Cornelius Son M 7 1844 Scholar Allington, Dorset
DUNN, Sarah Daughter F 6 1845 At Home Allington, Dorset
DUNN, William Son M 4 1847 At Home Allington, Dorset
DUNN, Fred Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851 At Home Allington, Dorset

Piece: 1861 Folio: 341 Page: 29

Registration District: Bridport
Civil Parish: Allington
Address: North Allington, Dorsetshire

 

[chelle p]

Louisa Freeman
William Dunn
Event Type Marriage
Event Date11 Oct 1835
Event Place Bridport, Dorset, England


Silvester William Dunn
England, Dorset, Parish Registers, 1538-1936
christening: 4 November 1838 Bridport, Bridport, Dorset, England
parents:William Dunn, Louisa Dunn


it looks as if William may have been married twice, needs further investigation. This site may help you
https://familysearch.org/search/rec...+birth_place:bridport~ +birth_year:1830-1840~

dave
1851
DUNN, William Head Married M 34 1817 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Mary Wife Married F 32 1819 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Amelia Daughter F 14 1837 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Silvester Son M 11 1840 Spinner Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Elias Son M 8 1843 Bridport, Dorset
DUNN, Cornelius Son M 7 1844 Scholar Allington, Dorset
DUNN, Sarah Daughter F 6 1845 At Home Allington, Dorset
DUNN, William Son M 4 1847 At Home Allington, Dorset
DUNN, Fred Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851 At Home Allington, Dorset

Piece: 1861 Folio: 341 Page: 29

Registration District: Bridport
Civil Parish: Allington
Address: North Allington, Dorsetshire

Oh thank you! Somehow I had all my information mixed up. This confirms what I have, but I got the previous information right..at least I know Im on the correct path now x

 

[chelle p]

Can I check that I have this right,

Silvester's mum is Louisa and then he remarried to Mary..

I also need to then check if his siblings are full or half siblings.

 

[chelle p]

Ive just noticed something..on that original post, the youngest child is listed as a Henry, not Silvester Henry, I definitly have him as a silvester henry....

 

[brentor boy]

It may well be that he was known as Henry within the family to avoid confusion with his father. I have a family where all four children were commonly known by their second names.

 

[davelambert271]

Silvester 1880 was recorded on 1881 census as Henry 5 months, on 1891 as Silvester 10 and on 1901 as Slivester H.J 20

His father Silvester 1849 married Honor in Jun qtr 1874, but he had already ben married before.

Silvester Dunn married Mary Richardson A/J 1857 Bridport she died Mar qtr 1874 (didn't waste much time) All the children were to Honor

Silvester 1849 (and Amelia) parents were William and Louisa Freeman. She died jun qtr 1841 so William married Mary Hodder Sep qtr 1841

Ask if you need any transcripts

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Honor Cleal

James John Cleal married Honor Guppy dec qtr 1859 Bridport

Honor's parents John Guppy and Mary Ann Dimet, married dec qtr 1838 Beaminster
Looks as if John's father was also John
see 1851 census Piece 1860-Folio 342-Page 11

dave

 

[chelle p]

Silvester 1880 was recorded on 1881 census as Henry 5 months, on 1891 as Silvester 10 and on 1901 as Slivester H.J 20

His father Silvester 1849 married Honor in Jun qtr 1874, but he had already ben married before.

Silvester Dunn married Mary Richardson A/J 1857 Bridport she died Mar qtr 1874 (didn't waste much time) All the children were to Honor

Silvester 1849 (and Amelia) parents were William and Louisa Freeman. She died jun qtr 1841 so William married Mary Hodder Sep qtr 1841

Ask if you need any transcripts

dave

Dave you legend!

 

[chelle p]

Honor Cleal

James John Cleal married Honor Guppy dec qtr 1859 Bridport

Honor's parents John Guppy and Mary Ann Dimet, married dec qtr 1838 Beaminster
Looks as if John's father was also John
see 1851 census Piece 1860-Folio 342-Page 11

dave

Is this my Honor (as in Silvester and honor (the honor cleal??) sorry confused lol

 

[davelambert271]

that's right, Honor Guppy married James Cleal in 1859
he was off the scene by 1861 - 1367-48-34 when Honor was with parents and a son John F 6months. In 1871 she was a servant on her own, before marrying Silvester in 1874

dave

 

[chelle p]

Massive thank you Dave. This one has been bit of a mare. I had two families confused and none of it ended up making sense. For personal reasons (not wanting to acknowledge all my grandparents had died by updating their detail) I have taken a long break from this, but due to a mega break through on my mums side of the family where we have got one line back to the 14th century, I am back on the saddle again

 

[chelle p]

My mum has found in the middle of a load of paperwork the marriage certificate for William Dunn and Mary Hodder, so I know have their fathers too! How would I then find the father (who is also a William Dunn). 1841 census or am I now on parish records????

 

[davelambert271]

there may be a problem relating to the mge cert of William and Mary Hodder. This did not take place until Sept 1841 and Silvester was born 1839.
William married Louisa Freeman on 11/10/1835 at Bridport and she died Jun 1841 so it would appear that Silvester's parents were William and Louisa. Louisa was not with the family in 1841, I wonder why..

dave

 

[chelle p]

there may be a problem relating to the mge cert of William and Mary Hodder. This did not take place until Sept 1841 and Silvester was born 1839.
William married Louisa Freeman on 11/10/1835 at Bridport and she died Jun 1841 so it would appear that Silvester's parents were William and Louisa. Louisa was not with the family in 1841, I wonder why..

dave

We knew from a previous post you did that Silvester and Amelia were children to Louisa and William and the others were children to Silvester and Mary. We knew as well that Silvester and Mary were married very quickly from the information from yesterday. It does seem one hell of a rebound three months between Louisa dying and him marrying Mary. I would take it there was an illicit affair somewhere.

 

[chelle p]

Omg, I am feeling incredibly emotional right this minute. If I dont bore you, I need to tell a little story.

My grandpa (my dads dad) was called Dennis Brown and married to Marjorie Edith Dunn, daughter of Silvester Henry John Dunn.

They were a very un-demonistrive couple with regards to showing affection. I dont remember them ever telling my dad that they loved him or showing him much affection and they were always old before their time.

My grandfather served in the army in WW2 and was based in India. Then he joined the police force. He worked as a bobby in Sherborne and then in his latter days did cycling proficiency courses. He was a very methodical man. Wrote an amazing book about his time in India and was quite creative. I still have fond memories of a steam engine powered fayre that he built from scratch (carosel, swing boats and so on)

Anyway, we have just come across something that has completely changed my perception of him. We have just found some notes of his, not about his family, but about my grandmothers (the Dunns) family. They talk about the normal details, dates of birth, where people were born and so on. They then start to show a side of him that I never got to see. They are full of details like he has attached major events in history to when people were born. A member of the Dunn family was noted as being born the day slavery was abolished within the British Empire, someone else was born the day civil war broke in India. He then talks about an incident about when Silvester Henry was at school and he was referred as "the brightest boy in school". It talks about in great detail the Dunns relationship with Bridport and specifically the Parish Church there. He talks about how strong the family bond was with the Parish Church and how highly it was held in the family. He then finishes with probably the most emotional statement I have ever seen written down for a non emotional man, where he says how glad he was that my dad was christened there. Its signed off with a pure and simple "Dad".

I so wish I had known this side of my Grandpa. I may have held a different opinion of him, who knows.

 

[leefer]

Omg, I am feeling incredibly emotional right this minute. If I dont bore you, I need to tell a little story.

My grandpa (my dads dad) was called Dennis Brown and married to Marjorie Edith Dunn, daughter of Silvester Henry John Dunn.

They were a very un-demonistrive couple with regards to showing affection. I dont remember them ever telling my dad that they loved him or showing him much affection and they were always old before their time.

My grandfather served in the army in WW2 and was based in India. Then he joined the police force. He worked as a bobby in Sherborne and then in his latter days did cycling proficiency courses. He was a very methodical man. Wrote an amazing book about his time in India and was quite creative. I still have fond memories of a steam engine powered fayre that he built from scratch (carosel, swing boats and so on)

Anyway, we have just come across something that has completely changed my perception of him. We have just found some notes of his, not about his family, but about my grandmothers (the Dunns) family. They talk about the normal details, dates of birth, where people were born and so on. They then start to show a side of him that I never got to see. They are full of details like he has attached major events in history to when people were born. A member of the Dunn family was noted as being born the day slavery was abolished within the British Empire, someone else was born the day civil war broke in India. He then talks about an incident about when Silvester Henry was at school and he was referred as "the brightest boy in school". It talks about in great detail the Dunns relationship with Bridport and specifically the Parish Church there. He talks about how strong the family bond was with the Parish Church and how highly it was held in the family. He then finishes with probably the most emotional statement I have ever seen written down for a non emotional man, where he says how glad he was that my dad was christened there. Its signed off with a pure and simple "Dad".

I so wish I had known this side of my Grandpa. I may have held a different opinion of him, who knows.

That is a lovey story...many people in the past were brought up to be hard and not show there feelings.

Can you remember the Film... Goodnight Mr Tom?.....sort of shows you a man set in his ways and when he cares for a young boy he learns to be more human.

Writing for me allows me to be myself without trying to be someone else.....not saying your Gramps was like that but maybe his little writings that you have seen recently was his way of being himself.
People of that generation were brought up in nasty timeline in our history when smiles and cuddles were thin on the ground because of two world wars.

Glad for you...and glad for him also that you saw a side that makes you happier.

 

[chelle p]

That is a lovey story...many people in the past were brought up to be hard and not show there feelings.

Can you remember the Film... Goodnight Mr Tom?.....sort of shows you a man set in his ways and when he cares for a young boy he learns to be more human.

Writing for me allows me to be myself without trying to be someone else.....not saying your Gramps was like that but maybe his little writings that you have seen recently was his way of being himself.
People of that generation were brought up in nasty timeline in our history when smiles and cuddles were thin on the ground because of two world wars.

Glad for you...and glad for him also that you saw a side that makes you happier.

I think what I like so much, is that if you are not careful, you end up with pages of names and dates with no personality to any of it, nothing you can connect to. I havent read it all properly, just snippets whilst copying it into a format I can print. I cant wait to sit down with a cuppa and read it properly