Sophia Marianne MORLEY

[DaveHam9]

Sophia Marianne Morley c. 12 Jun 1852 St. Weburgh, Derby, Derbyshire
William Parkin Morley & Sophia
Batch: C024754


'Abbey Holme' arrived Qld. 13 Sep 1871 IMM/114 p.142 M1697
MORLEY
William P 50
Sophia 40
Arthur 20
Sophia 18
William 16
Florence 11
John 10
Harvey 8
Frederick 5
George 3
Henry C 1

Looking for anything on Sophia after 1871.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Appears to have vanished, Dave.. She may have gone back to England of course

I thought I'd found her in Herbert with a brother, but turns out he married a Sophia

This may be a possible, if she didn't marry..

FS - Find A Grave Index:
Sophia Morley
Date 1933 Cloncurry, Queensland
Death Date 15 Mar 1933
Affiliate Record Identifier 61441643
Cemetery Cloncurry Cemetery

There is an image on FS with a quote from a niece [says age = 86y, out] on this page HERE

Geoff

EDIT: Possibly her mother's burial in 1901 also..

 

[Bootzy]

Hi all,
re Geoff's find for 1933

Not the right one
SOPHIA MORLEY.
A death occurred on Ernestine Plains, near Oorindi, on Wednesday last, Mrs. Sophie Morley, aged 86 Aunt of Mr and Mrs J. J. Bevan with whom she had been residing, passing away. Deceased had been ailing for some considerable time and her death came as a release for her. The body was brought to Cloncurry and buried on Thursday afternoon, Mr Peter Forrest carrying out the arrangements.

1933 C262 Sophia Morley Harry Solomon Mary Loveland

re the 1901 deaths.. right one for Mother..
Mum - 1901 C2756 Sophia Morley - Thomas Cholerton Harriet Coates

Dad - 1898 C2866 William Parkin Morley Sampson Morley Mary Ann Black
IN MEMORIAM.
MORLEY. - In affectionate remembrance of our dear Father, WILLIAM PARKIN MORLEY, who died on the 17th March 1898. The Mercury. Vincit Omnia Veritas. SATURDAY. MARCH 15, 1902.

 

[horse]

1933 C262 Sophia Morley Harry Solomon Mary Loveland

re the 1901 deaths.. right one for Mother..
Mum - 1901 C2756 Sophia Morley - Thomas Cholerton Harriet Coates

That's interesting, if I remember correctly one of Sophia Marianne's brothers, probably Arthur, married a Sophia Solomon...

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

Trying find info on them is hard, maybe surname needs fiddling with.. like Marley etc

working family from 1871 Arrival..

William P 50 – William Parkin Morley - died 1898

Sophia 40 nee Cholerton – died 1901

Arthur 20- Arthur William Morley died 1914 Qld – a school teacher

Sophia Marion/Marianne 18 -

*William 16 – WH (Proserpine)

Florence 11 – married Henry Clarke Kilner 1884 Qld – she died 1938 Qld

*John 10 – John Patterson Morley died 1924 Qld

*Harvey 8 – Harvey Thomas Morley died 1927 Qld

*Frederick 5 – Frederick Parkin Morley died 1941 Qld – town clerk

*George 3 – George Edward Morley died 1931 Qld - accountant & Shire clerk

Henry C 1 – Henry Coates Morley died 10 July 1888 Qld age 18 from snake bite.

* = mentioned in Arthur William Morley's death notice - Daily Mercury 22 Aug 1914 - Personal, deceased leaves widow and 5 brothers..besides G & F Morley (Mackay), Messers Harvey Morley (Townsville), JP Morley (Dangerness) and WH Morley (Proserpine) - so why no mention of his sisters ???

 

[horse]

Trying find info on them is hard, maybe surname needs fiddling with.. like Marley etc

Yeah, spent quite a 'fruitless' while looking earlier, hence my weak efforts, in case anything could be drawn from them..

Can't see deaths for the girls, wondered if they went back to England. Though haven't tried variants yet, as you suggest..

Geoff

EDIT: Oh! Florence did marry then..

 

[horse]

Searching for Sophia with parents William & Sophia returns this..

Qld deaths
1933 C3697
Sophia Jolly
William Morley & Sophia Roberts

Geoff

EDIT: I guess Morley could be a middle name..

 

[Bootzy]

ok posting family again as I did find something last night on Trove re one of the boys & said born Ireland... so found 1871 UK census

Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity - County/Island: London - Country: England Registration district: St George Hanover Square - Sub-registration district: St John Westminster -ED, institution, or vessel: 30 - Piece: 125 - Folio: 51 - Page Number: 5

William Parkin Morley b 1821 Leck Staffordshire – died 1898

Sophia nee Cholerton b 1831 Derby – died 1901

Arthur Morley b 1851 Derby – married Sophia Soloman 1888 Qld, he died 1914

Sophia Marianne Morley b 1853 Derby

William H Morley b 1855 Stratford on Karney – Ireland – married Mary Josephine Flanaghan 1890 Qld

Florence Morley b 1859 Stratford on Karney – Ireland – married Henry Clark Kilner – died 1938

John Patterson Morley b 1861 Stratford on Karney – Ireland – married Julia Ann Dixon 14/10/1885 – he died 1924

Harvey W Morley b 1863 Stratford on Karney – Ireland – death has him as William THOMAS Morley 29/11/1927 – married Mary Ann Weatherby 1884 - he died 1927

Frederick J Morley b 1866 Stratford on Karney – Ireland Frederick PARKIN Morley married Mary Agnes Lynch 1907 – died 1941

George Edwin Morley b 1868 Ireland – married Annie Margareta Peterson - died 1931

Henry C 1 – Henry Coates Morley died 10 July 1888 Qld age 18 from snake bite.

 

[horse]

Yeah, after Sophia all b. Ireland, I did look for clues and assumed they may have left from Ireland.. I am not sure if the 1848 - 1912 assisted passages to Qld. included Ireland...

Geoff

 

[horse]

I suppose it is not out of the question for Sophia M to have d. on the passage, given we have nothing for her in Australia

Geoff

 

[horse]

ok posting family again as I did find something last night on Trove re one of the boys & said born Ireland... so found 1871 UK census

Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity - County/Island: London - Country: England Registration district: St George Hanover Square - Sub-registration district: St John Westminster -ED, institution, or vessel: 30 - Piece: 125 - Folio: 51 - Page Number: 5

Oh! So in England before the passage, that solves that

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

Geoff, going back to the one who died in 1933 - found this..

Particulars of Will or Otherwise.—Will dated 25th August, 1913. Date within which Caveat may be
Lodged.— 28th December, 1933. Name of Deceased Proprietor.— Sophia Morley, late of Oorindi, widow. Date of Death.—15th March, 1933. GOVERNMENT NOTICES. Name of Claimant.— Elizabeth Sophia Bevan, of Ernestina Plains, Oorindi, wife of John. James Bevan. Description and Situation of Land.— Resubdivision 9 of subdivisions 12 and 13 of section 2 of portion 61, county of Stanley, parish of Nundah. Estate Claimed to be Transmitted.— Fee-simple.

cant seem to locate Elizabeth or John James Bevan on ERs..

 

[horse]

Thanks, Val..

Looks as though the original will was made in 1913 to her niece, her husband d. 1914. I'm not fully sure I understand the implications without seeing the will and/or any codicil..

Geoff

 

[horse]

This is her in 1915, she's not with Arthur William [teacher] as he d. 1914, but with him in the E/R's before then..

Qld. E/R 1915
Sophia Morley
Subd: MacKay
District: Herbert
Residence: Hampden

Geoff

 

[horse]

From post #12 it looks as thought Sophia has eventually gone to live with her niece in Oorindi, some distance from Mackay

I can't see her in the E/R's yet, either.

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

As Will says she is a Widow..presume back in 1913 when she made the will

The only marriage I can find that could fit is
1906 C2455 Sophia Morley to a Richard Taylor,
that would make her at least 51 years old when married.. after Richard's death she could revert back to maiden name...

 

[horse]

May be at cross-purposes here.. I believe that Sophia who died in 1933 was Sophia Marriane's brother's wife..

Arthur William Morley
Spouse: Sophia Solomon
Date: 05 Dec 1888
Reg Place: Queensland
Year: 1888. No. 001373
Page Number: 10481

Geoff

 

[horse]

The Taylor/Sophia Morley marriage being 1906..

Geoff

EDIT: As you point out in post #16..

 

[horse]

The Taylor/Sophia Morley marriage being 1906..

Geoff

EDIT: As you point out in post #16..

Not finding this couple in the E/R's either

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

yep sorry - was thinking it was Sophia Marianne b 1852..

She could have returned to Uk, few marriages that would fit such as:
married 1884 in Derby to James Hardman or Arthur ward