Stanley Ives c1907. Great Missenden, Bucks.

[p.risboy]

Hi folks.

I don't know if it's the site I'm using, or this chap is a myth or adopted.

According to the 1911 census, his pob is Great Missenden. It would be under the reg dist of Amersham.

Nothing found, regarding birth, marriage or death.

Son of George & Celia Ives.

Can any one see what I can't.


Steve.

EDIT: FreeBMD, shows a birth for Stanley Vincent Ives. a/m/j. 1907. Amersham.

 

[DaveHam9]

There is this one Steve

Births Jun Qtr 1907
IVES Stanley Vincent Amersham 3a 933

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

Thanks Dave......missed on Ancestree.

Just marriage and death to go.:biggrin:

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Ok, found a potential death in 1982, Hillingdon, Greater London.

Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

1939 Index
Stanley V Ives 1907 Harrow U.D. Middlesex

 

[p.risboy]

1939 Index
Stanley V Ives 1907 Harrow U.D. Middlesex

Hmmm, that would be interesting to see. 4 others on that record, so is that children. ? :2fun:

I can't see a marriage as yet. But his dob from the death reg 1st March 1907, seems about right.

Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yeah, no obvious marriage.

Dave

 

[stockpot]

1939 he is still single, living with his parents :-

George Ives 19 Feb 1868 Male Caretaker Married
 Celia P Ives 23 Jan 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
 Celia M Ives 31 Jul 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single
 Archibald George Ives 21 May 1900 Male Wood Machinist Single
 Stanley V Ives 01 Mar 1907 Male Estate Manager Single
 Muriel R Perry (Ives) 27 Nov 1914 Female Typist - Air Ministry Single

Always seems strange to me how in the 1939 transcript an unmarried woman is listed firstly by the married name she later acquires. In the original document Muriel was listed as Muriel R Ives along with the rest of her family, then later Ives has been crossed out and overwritten Perry with 18.5.45 in the margin. I always think the transcript should be Muriel R Ives (Perry).

Elaine

 

[p.risboy]

Many thanks Elaine, that's brilliant.

I looked for more children for George & Celia, and finding Muriel(with mothers maiden name), has added another. Not easy finding other children in that time frame before 1914.

I am guessing that Muriel R Ives was engaged to a Perry in 1939, and have just found a possible marriage to a John J Perry in Hendon, 1945. I wonder.:biggrin:

Thanks again.

Steve.

 

[stockpot]

only three John J Perry of a suitable age in 1939, in Birmingham, Plymouth and Wycombe. Last one is fairly near to Harrow :-

John James Perry, 24 Feb 1915, insurance clerk, single

appears to be one of three lodgers with Robert W and Rhoda A Chiltern (butcher, both 75) at Combe View, Little Kimble, Wycombe, Bucks

Elaine

 

[p.risboy]

Thanks Elaine.

Yep, Robert & Rhoda CHILTON, are in Little Kimble. I think Robert was born in the Crown Pub, when it existed. Closed about 10 years ago, sadly.

I'll see what I can find out for Muriel Perry death, and hubby.

Ta muchly.

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Muriel Ruby Perry, died Jan Qtr. 1992 Reg.Dist. Chatham, Kent.

So that's another Ives sorted.

Not a lot of luck with hubby, John J. Perry.

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Chasing Archibald George, & Stanley V. Ives, in the London Electoral Registers, I narrowed down his father's death......between 1953 & 1958. His father, George Ives, dies Mar. 1956 @ Harrow, but registered Hendon.

Another one closed off, and that's that family resolved, with no apparent offspring, except for Muriel Ruby Perry(nee.Ives).

But, from what I have seen, there seems to be births from 1946. Ilford, 1948, Wandsworth, 1950 & 1952, Essex Sth. Western, Herts, and finally, 1955, Ware, Herts.

Celia M Perry, Robert W Perry, Anastasia S Perry, Paul R Perry and Colin E Perry, all mothers maiden name of Ives.

I think that's it for this line of Ives.

Thanks all for the help on this.

Steve.

 

[stockpot]

Yes, I saw the children born Ilford, Wandsworth, Essex and Ware. In fact there were five Perry/Ives children born Ware:- Michael 1954, Colin E 1955, Philip S 1957, Ann 1961 and Sheila P 1966. However there was also a marriage for Edward N Perry & Patricia E Ives in Ware in 1951 so I think the Ware children are not part of your family.

Confusing how your lot finish with Paul R in 1952 and the Ware family start with Michael in 1954, the dates definitely look like one big family but I think the Ware marriage gives us two families.

Elaine

 

[p.risboy]

Yes, and just when I think IVES is not a common name.:2fun:

I did wonder about the spread, but hopefully a living relative can put me right, if I can find one.

Off to look for Patricia E Ives now.:biggrin:

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Pamela E H Ives, b.1927. Edmonton. Dies 2003 Northants.

Great Grandfather was Obadiah Bristow Ives, b.1819. Yarmouth.

So no relation, only by surname.

Steve.