STEWART family in Dunfermline

[DaveHam9]

1891
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: 22 Holyrood Pl
David Stewart Head 71 Retired slater Dunfermline
Euphemia dau 36 Housekeeper Dunfermline
Catherine dau 31 Dmask linen weaver Dunfermline
David Stewart g/son 22 Clerk Dunfermline
Mary Stewart g/dau 14 Card laser Dunfermline


Any sign of any of the family in 1901 thanks.

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Euphemia Stewart Head Single Female 46 1855 - Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland Transcription
Kate Stewart Sister Single Female 40 1861 Damask Weaver Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland Transcription
Simon Martin Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Grocer (Shopkeeper) Nairnshire, Scotland Transcription
James Beckwith Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Grocer (Shopkeeper) -

at Holyrood Place, Dunfermline
looks like Euphemia and Katherine

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Marriage 1910 ARNOTT ADAM STEWART MARY W ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/04 0035


Middle name W = Wilhelmina

Adam has not been found in 1901 yet either.

1891
Registration District: Dunscore
County: Dumfriesshire
Civil Parish: Dunscore
ED: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_394 Page 10
Address: Allanton Stable Yd
James Arnott Head 34 Coachman dom servt Gladsmuir Haddingtonshire
Marry Arnott Wife 35 Salto Haddingtonshire
Adam Arnott son 10 Scholar Gifford Haddingtonshire

1901
Registration District: St George
County: Midlothian
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Dean
ED: 63
Roll: CSSCT1901_365 Page 23
Address: 18 Lennox St
James Arnot Head 44 Coachman - Dom Longniddry Haddington
Mary Arnot Wife 45


ARNOTT Adam 1880 M 1910 London Australia Sydney
ARNOTT Mary 1876 F 1910 London Australia Sydney

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

There are two possibles for Mary, but both have middle names. One a Mary Aitken Stewart and one a Mary H in Fife and Govan. Does yours ever show a middle initial?

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Yes.

1881
Registration number: 424
Registration District: Dunfermline
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
Town: Dunfermline
County: Fife
ED: 4
Roll: CSSCT1881_117
Household schedule number: 78
Address: 60 James Street
William Stewart Head 39 Slater Employing 4 Men & 1 Apprentice Dunfermline
Jane Stewart Wife 38
David Stewart son 12
Elizabeth Stewart dau 10
Jane Stewart dau 7
Mary W Stewart dau 4
William Stewart son 2
all b. Dunfermline

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

There is this for Adam, address Travelling Van, Lauder, Berwickshire
James S Combe Single Male 26 1875 Engineman Travelling Engine Gladsmuir, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Adam Arnott Single Male 18 1883 Engineman Travelling Engine Salton, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Three different pob for Adam. Have not checked yet how close they are.

Garvald and Gifford in 1881 and 1891.

 

[DaveHam9]

Wrong Adam ??

ADAM
Last name Arnott
Age -
Birth year 1880
Birth day 1
Birth month May
Birth place Haddington
Birth county Haddingtonshire
Place HADDINGTON
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number 485803
Card type CR10
Date range 1918-1921
Series BT350
Piece number -
Record set Merchant Navy Seamen
Category Education & work
Record collection Merchant navy & maritime
Collections from Great Britain

Adam's service record has next of kin father James Arnott 18 Lennox Street Edinburgh.
Adam Arnott trade calling VALET age 19 years and 6 months.

That age puts what event in 1899 ???

1901
Registration District: St George
County: Midlothian
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Dean
ED: 63
Roll: CSSCT1901_365 Page 23
Address: 18 Lennox St
James Arnot Head 44 Coachman - Dom Longniddry Haddington
Mary Arnot Wife 45


Don't know which one is mine.

 

[DaveHam9]

1881
Reg Number: 707
Registration District: Garvald
Civil Parish: Garvald
County: East Lothian
ED: 3
Address: Quarryford
[James Arnott]
James Anott Head 24 Groom & Gardener Gladsmuir Haddingtonshire
Mary Anott Wife 25 Salton Haddingtonshire
Adam Anott son 11 Months Garvald Haddingtonshire

1891
Registration District: Dunscore
County: Dumfriesshire
Civil Parish: Dunscore
ED: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_394 Page 10
Address: Allanton Stable Yd
James Arnott Head 34 Coachman dom servt Gladsmuir Haddingtonshire
Marry Arnott Wife 35 Salto Haddingtonshire
Adam Arnott son 10 Scholar Gifford Haddingtonshire


Something does not fit.

Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records 1760-1913 ??

 

[DaveHam9]

The Adam who married Mary W enlisted in the Australian Army on 31 Aug 1914 and gave pob as Gifford and age as 32 3/12, a motor mechanic.

Death 31618/1943 ARNOTT ADAM - JAMES - MARY - WOLLONGONG ** 16 Oct

Age 63 so age at enlistment or age at death is out.

So if it is 1 May 1880 he has changed the year and the month.

Do we have 1x or 2x Adam?

 

[DaveHam9]

This is getting strange. He enlisted at Brisbane.

Re previous service - he said he didn't 'serve' but was a Purchase - 1st Gloucester Regiment.

Discharged in Sydney on 16 Jun 1919.

 

[DaveHam9]

How can he be in the Merchant Navy 1918-1921 and in the Australian Army from 1914-1919?

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr Adam Arnott
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Departure Date: 6 Jul 1910
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Miltiades
Shipping Line: Aberdeen Line
Official Number: 118179
Master: A Douglas
Original shows:
[Adam, labourer, aged 30]
[Mary, aged 34]

 

[DaveHam9]

Found another one in 1891

Name Adam Arnot
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
Gender Male
Age 8
Birthplace East Lothian
Registration District Salton
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

That question again

Is there one piece of info that is true, to work from?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Several pieces Geoff. :biggrin: I would say this is accurate.

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr Adam Arnott
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Departure Date: 6 Jul 1910
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Miltiades
Shipping Line: Aberdeen Line
Official Number: 118179
Master: A Douglas
Original shows:
[Adam, labourer, aged 30]
[Mary, aged 34]


1876 STEWART MARY WILHELMINA F DUNFERMLINE BURGH /FIFE 424/01 0338

Mary 4 years older fits. Age at death for Adam fits 63 in 1943. He was in the Australia Army 1914 to 1919.

1930 NSW Electoral Roll - Martin - Drummoyne
ARNOTT Adam, 51A Alexandra street, labourer
ARNOTT Mary Wilhelmina, 51A Alexandra street, home duties


We have to sort out the UK service record and the Chelsea Pensioner one. Some of that points to 1880 and some to 1882.

Is the Adam aged 8 in 1891 with parents and are they James & Mary?

Dave

 

[horse]

If you mean the one in post #13, this looks like the family

RD = Salton
Adam Arnot 41 [b. Gladsmuir. Road surfaceman]
Barbara Arnot 40 [b. Salton]
Avis Arnot 16 [b. Inveresk]
Robert Arnot 12 [b. Salton. Scholar]
Thomas Arnot 10 [do, do]
Adam Arnot 8 [do, do]
John Arnot 5 [do]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

SP
Adam ARNOT 1880 Garvald - Post 1855 index does not list parents

Adam ARNOT 1883 Saltoun

Ok, only two to trace.

 

[DaveHam9]

1881
Reg Number: 707
Registration District: Garvald
Civil Parish: Garvald
County: East Lothian
ED: 3
Address: Quarryford
[James Arnott]
James Anott Head 24 Groom & Gardener Gladsmuir Haddingtonshire
Mary Anott Wife 25 Salton Haddingtonshire
Adam Anott son 11 Months Garvald Haddingtonshire


Parents on that census fit the death reg in NSW.

That has to be the older one.

 

[horse]

SP
Adam ARNOT 1880 Garvald - Post 1855 index does not list parents

Adam ARNOT 1883 Saltoun

Ok, only two to trace.

Helps having only 2, just double checking now..

Gladsmuir interesting

 

[DaveHam9]

We come to this:

1901
Registration District: St George
County: Midlothian
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Dean
ED: 63
Roll: CSSCT1901_365 Page 23
Address: 18 Lennox St
James Arnot Head 44 Coachman - Dom Longniddry Haddington
Mary Arnot Wife 45


What does this refer to?

Adam's service record has next of kin father James Arnott 18 Lennox Street Edinburgh.
Adam Arnott trade calling VALET age 19 years and 6 months.

1899?

1st Gloucester Regiment? or ?