The AITKEN brothers

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Another go at finding info on Thomas and George AITKEN.

From 1852 shipping records:

Thomas 26 Shepherd - Edinbro - James & Isabella both dead - CofS

George 23 Farm Lab - Broughton Edinbro - James & Isabella both dead - CofS


George AITKEN & Janet CAIRNS
Marriage 8 Jul 1851 St Cuthbert's Edinburgh, Midlothian

Death 1882/B15290 Aitken George - Robert Aitken - Isabella Borthwick


Thomas AITKEN & Margaret STORIE
Marriage about 18 Jul 1851 Penicuik, Midlothian

Looking for a death for Thomas and neither fit for born abt 1826.

1877/C1478 Thomas Aitken - - ** aged 57 years
1897/C4199 Thomas Aitken - - ** born Scotland aged 80 years


Regards,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

I couldnt find Thomas's death, well not knowing which was the right one. So i followed one of his sons to trace him that way.

QLD birth
1858/B763 John Aitken Thomas Margaret Storey


Found this in Mundia I dont know how reliable the info is.

John AITKEN

1858-1941
Born: Durundur, Queensland, Australia
Marriage 1887 Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia
Died: Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Parents
Father Thomas AITKEN 1817 -1897
Thomas AITKEN 1817-1897
Born: Edinburgh, Scotland
Died: Aitkenvale, Townsville, Queensland

Father James AITKEN
Mother Isabella



Mother Margaret STOREY 1826-1897

Margaret STOREY

1826-1897
Born: Stobie, Penicuick, Scotland
Died: Rosevale, Queensland, Australia

 

[gibbo]

John [Thomas's son] is buried at West End Cemetery T'Ville

Surname: Aitken
First names: John
Born: 1859 At:
Died: 3 May 1941 At:
Age: 82 Buried: Westend cemetery,Townsville,


With Thomas dying in 1897 i have been told he would most likely be buried at that cemetery also tho he isnt noted online.

http://www.myrasplace.net/hstones/htowns2.htm

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I think the shipping record is correct and the parents are James & Isabella. I think the informant mixed up the fathers - Margaret's father is Robert.

Perhaps the age in the shipping record is not accurate. I've been using it to try and find the brothers. Born 1817 is very different for Thomas.

I think the 1817 has been calculated from the age at death. That may not be reliable either.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1897/C4043 Aitken Margaret - Robert Story - Elizabeth - ** born Scotland aged 75 years

That is 4 years out.

 

[DaveHam9]

One more curious thing - Janet CAIRNS is listed as age 9 in 1841 but parents didn't marry until 11 Nov 1837.

She has not been found in 1851 yet. She married as CAIRNS not her mother's name of DRAPER.

 

[gibbo]

Apparently Thomas Aitken and Margaret Storey have a daughter buried in Charters Towers.
Found this on a tree

Isabella Borthwick Covington (born Aitken)
Born: Dec 26 1854
In: Colinton, Queensland, Australia
Died:Jan 16 1935 (at age 80)
In: Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia

You want me to get a photo or to far down the line to worry about it? Suppose better find out if its right first :2fun::2fun::2fun: Some of these trees i have found are really something different:2fun::2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

If BORTHWICK is correct then this is not the marriage although the date fits:

groom's name: James Aitken
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Isobella Davidson
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 24 Dec 1816
marriage place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Davidson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11988-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066757
reference number:

 

[DaveHam9]

:2fun: :2fun: It's the other AITKENs.

Birth 1856/B0031 Aitken Isabella Margaret Bothwick - George - Janet Cairnes


So what have I missed? Are we wrong to assume they are brothers?

If Isabella BORTHWICK is correct on George's death reg then did she marry Robert or James?

I can find no AITKEN & BORTHWICK marriage 1801 - 1830

 

[DaveHam9]

I have not entered any of the AITKEN children. The branch stops with Thomas and George.

 

[gibbo]

I have not entered any of the AITKEN children. The branch stops with Thomas and George.

Ok then

 

[DaveHam9]

Even the CAIRNS are out on a limb - out from a branch of COOKSLEY who are connected to McLUCKIE. :2fun: A lot of shade under my tree.

 

[DaveHam9]

We have not found the following:

Isabella's marriage and death.

Birth/baptism for George & Thomas.

1841 and 1851 census for George & Thomas.

1851 census for Janet CAIRNS b. abt 1832 Stirlingshire.

 

[gibbo]

Even the CAIRNS are out on a limb - out from a branch of COOKSLEY who are connected to McLUCKIE. :2fun: A lot of shade under my tree.

:2fun::2fun: How many you got in it now? Lots no doubt :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

We have not found the following:

Isabella's marriage and death.

Birth/baptism for George & Thomas.

1841 and 1851 census for George & Thomas.

1851 census for Janet CAIRNS b. abt 1832 Stirlingshire.

Ok will see what can be found.

 

[DaveHam9]

:2fun::2fun: How many you got in it now? Lots no doubt :biggrin:

I keep pruning it. :2fun: Been stuck at 4994 for 2 years.

 

[gibbo]

If BORTHWICK is correct then this is not the marriage although the date fits:

groom's name: James Aitken
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Isobella Davidson
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 24 Dec 1816
marriage place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Davidson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11988-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066757
reference number:

Not the right one Dave?

Name: George Thomson Aitken
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT CUTHBERTS, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 09 Feb 1828
Birthplace: Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Aitken
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Isabella Davidson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11988-7
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1066761
Reference Number: 2:17S201G

 

[DaveHam9]

Well, explain the 'Isabella Borthwick' on the death reg.

Must be a spinster and DAVIDSON is not a married name for a BORTHWICK. Father is John DAVIDSON.

How does a name like Borthwick get pulled out of the air?

Hard to know which bit to throw out. Certainly it's looking as if 'Borthwick' does not exist.

If it is the right one it's the only time George has a middle name.

1828 certainly fits.

 

[DaveHam9]

If we assume Borthwick is out and Davidson is correct can we find a birth /baptism for Thomas?

I can't find one on FS.


Death 1882/B15290 Aitken George - Robert Aitken - Isabella Borthwick

We have to assume parents as listed are both wrong.

 

[DaveHam9]

Ruling out all with trades - Thomas was listed as a shepherd

Piece: SCT1841/690 Place: Kirknewton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Kirknewton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 5 Page: 8
Address: Listonshields

Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
AITKEN James M 80 Farmer Midlothian
AITKEN James M 35 Midlothian
AITKEN James M 15 Midlothian
AITKEN Thomas M 13 Midlothian
AITKEN David M 11 Midlothian
AITKEN Margaret F 77 Midlothian
AITKEN Elizabeth F 30 Midlothian
AITKEN Janet F 15 Midlothian
AITKEN Margaret F 13 Midlothian
AITKEN Marion F 11 Midlothian

Piece: SCT1851/690 Place: Kirknewton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: K-Newton & E Calder Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: East Calder
Folio: 688 Page: 12 Schedule: 39
Address: Listonshiells

Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
AITKEN Margaret Head W F 81 Farmer Of 80 Acres Arable Midlothian - Mid Calder
AITKEN Janet Grndau U F 30 Farmer's Gnd Daur Emp At Home Midlothian - Kirknewton
AITKEN Thomas Grnson U M 23 Farmer's Grndson Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
AITKEN Margaret Grndau U F 23 Farmer's Grd Daur Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
AITKEN David Grnson U M 21 Farmer's Grandson Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
HISLOP Helen Servnt U F 23 Gen Serv Peebles-shire - West Linton
HISLOP Humphrey Servnt M M 31 Ag Lab Lanarkshire - Crawford
REID William Servnt U M 16 Ag Lab Midlothian - Kirknewton
PATERSON William Servnt U M 13 Ag Lab Midlothian - Currie