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The AITKEN brothers

DaveHam9

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Hello,

Another go at finding info on Thomas and George AITKEN.

From 1852 shipping records:

Thomas 26 Shepherd - Edinbro - James & Isabella both dead - CofS

George 23 Farm Lab - Broughton Edinbro - James & Isabella both dead - CofS


George AITKEN & Janet CAIRNS
Marriage 8 Jul 1851 St Cuthbert's Edinburgh, Midlothian

Death 1882/B15290 Aitken George - Robert Aitken - Isabella Borthwick


Thomas AITKEN & Margaret STORIE
Marriage about 18 Jul 1851 Penicuik, Midlothian

Looking for a death for Thomas and neither fit for born abt 1826.

1877/C1478 Thomas Aitken - - ** aged 57 years
1897/C4199 Thomas Aitken - - ** born Scotland aged 80 years


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I couldnt find Thomas's death, well not knowing which was the right one. So i followed one of his sons to trace him that way.

QLD birth
1858/B763 John Aitken Thomas Margaret Storey


Found this in Mundia:confused: I dont know how reliable the info is.

John AITKEN

1858-1941
Born: Durundur, Queensland, Australia
Marriage 1887 Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia
Died: Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Parents
Father Thomas AITKEN 1817 :confused:-1897
Thomas AITKEN 1817-1897
Born: Edinburgh, Scotland
Died: Aitkenvale, Townsville, Queensland
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Father James AITKEN
Mother Isabella



Mother Margaret STOREY 1826-1897

Margaret STOREY

1826-1897
Born: Stobie, Penicuick, Scotland
Died: Rosevale, Queensland, Australia
 
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Thanks gibbo. :)

I think the shipping record is correct and the parents are James & Isabella. I think the informant mixed up the fathers - Margaret's father is Robert.

Perhaps the age in the shipping record is not accurate. I've been using it to try and find the brothers. Born 1817 is very different for Thomas.

I think the 1817 has been calculated from the age at death. That may not be reliable either.
 

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Death 1897/C4043 Aitken Margaret - Robert Story - Elizabeth - ** born Scotland aged 75 years

That is 4 years out.
 

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One more curious thing - Janet CAIRNS is listed as age 9 in 1841 but parents didn't marry until 11 Nov 1837.

She has not been found in 1851 yet. She married as CAIRNS not her mother's name of DRAPER.
 

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Apparently Thomas Aitken and Margaret Storey have a daughter buried in Charters Towers.
Found this on a tree:rolleyes:

Isabella Borthwick Covington (born Aitken)
Born: Dec 26 1854
In: Colinton, Queensland, Australia
Died:Jan 16 1935 (at age 80)
In: Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia

You want me to get a photo or to far down the line to worry about it? :confused: Suppose better find out if its right first :2fun::2fun::2fun: Some of these trees i have found are really something different:eek::2fun::2fun::2fun:
 
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If BORTHWICK is correct then this is not the marriage although the date fits:

groom's name: James Aitken
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Isobella Davidson
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 24 Dec 1816
marriage place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Davidson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11988-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066757
reference number:
 

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:2fun: :2fun: It's the other AITKENs.

Birth 1856/B0031 Aitken Isabella Margaret Bothwick - George - Janet Cairnes


So what have I missed? Are we wrong to assume they are brothers?

If Isabella BORTHWICK is correct on George's death reg then did she marry Robert or James?

I can find no AITKEN & BORTHWICK marriage 1801 - 1830
 
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Even the CAIRNS are out on a limb - out from a branch of COOKSLEY who are connected to McLUCKIE. :2fun: A lot of shade under my tree. :D
 

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We have not found the following:

Isabella's marriage and death.

Birth/baptism for George & Thomas.

1841 and 1851 census for George & Thomas.

1851 census for Janet CAIRNS b. abt 1832 Stirlingshire.
 
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If BORTHWICK is correct then this is not the marriage although the date fits:

groom's name: James Aitken
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Isobella Davidson
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 24 Dec 1816
marriage place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Davidson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11988-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066757
reference number:

Not the right one Dave? :confused:

Name: George Thomson Aitken
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT CUTHBERTS, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 09 Feb 1828
Birthplace: Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Aitken
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Isabella Davidson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11988-7
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1066761
Reference Number: 2:17S201G
 

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Well, explain the 'Isabella Borthwick' on the death reg. :rolleyes:

Must be a spinster and DAVIDSON is not a married name for a BORTHWICK. Father is John DAVIDSON.

How does a name like Borthwick get pulled out of the air? :D

Hard to know which bit to throw out. Certainly it's looking as if 'Borthwick' does not exist.

If it is the right one it's the only time George has a middle name.

1828 certainly fits.
 
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If we assume Borthwick is out and Davidson is correct can we find a birth /baptism for Thomas?

I can't find one on FS.


Death 1882/B15290 Aitken George - Robert Aitken - Isabella Borthwick

We have to assume parents as listed are both wrong.
 
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Ruling out all with trades - Thomas was listed as a shepherd

Piece: SCT1841/690 Place: Kirknewton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Kirknewton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 5 Page: 8
Address: Listonshields

Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
AITKEN James M 80 Farmer Midlothian
AITKEN James M 35 Midlothian
AITKEN James M 15 Midlothian
AITKEN Thomas M 13 Midlothian
AITKEN David M 11 Midlothian
AITKEN Margaret F 77 Midlothian
AITKEN Elizabeth F 30 Midlothian
AITKEN Janet F 15 Midlothian
AITKEN Margaret F 13 Midlothian
AITKEN Marion F 11 Midlothian

Piece: SCT1851/690 Place: Kirknewton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: K-Newton & E Calder Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: East Calder
Folio: 688 Page: 12 Schedule: 39
Address: Listonshiells

Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
AITKEN Margaret Head W F 81 Farmer Of 80 Acres Arable Midlothian - Mid Calder
AITKEN Janet Grndau U F 30 Farmer's Gnd Daur Emp At Home Midlothian - Kirknewton
AITKEN Thomas Grnson U M 23 Farmer's Grndson Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
AITKEN Margaret Grndau U F 23 Farmer's Grd Daur Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
AITKEN David Grnson U M 21 Farmer's Grandson Emp At Home Midlothian - Liston Shiells
HISLOP Helen Servnt U F 23 Gen Serv Peebles-shire - West Linton
HISLOP Humphrey Servnt M M 31 Ag Lab Lanarkshire - Crawford
REID William Servnt U M 16 Ag Lab Midlothian - Kirknewton
PATERSON William Servnt U M 13 Ag Lab Midlothian - Currie
 

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