The AITKEN brothers

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

1852 image is clearly James & Isabella both dead for George and Thomas.

George 28 in 1852 farm lab from Broughton Edinboro

Thomas born 1817 - 1822.

Davidson ruled out, so that is progress.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

George Aitken was born in Broughton in Edinbourgh according to emigration records .Thomas just says Edinbourgh.

Scattered houses on the farmlands which originally made up Broughton eventually gave way to more general housing in the century prior to the formation of Edinburgh's New Town which adjoined the parish of Broughton. Its modern borders are defined, approximately, as being Leith Walk in the south east, Broughton Street in the south west, Broughton Road in the north west and McDonald Road in the north east. Moving clockwise from south east, Broughton is bordered by Greenside and Calton, the New Town, Canonmills, and Pilrig.That could be Kilrig .

http://www.oldandnewedinburgh.co.uk/volume3/page193.html

Edit-http://tinyurl.com/y7r9p7pb

 

[Calum33]

George Aitken was born in Broughton in Edinbourgh according to emigration records .Thomas just says Edinbourgh.

Scattered houses on the farmlands which originally made up Broughton eventually gave way to more general housing in the century prior to the formation of Edinburgh's New Town which adjoined the parish of Broughton. Its modern borders are defined, approximately, as being Leith Walk in the south east, Broughton Street in the south west, Broughton Road in the north west and McDonald Road in the north east. Moving clockwise from south east, Broughton is bordered by Greenside and Calton, the New Town, Canonmills, and Pilrig.That could be Kilrig .

I wonder if he could have been thinking of 28 Broughton Place which is where Jane Aitken was living, probably as a housekeeper, and a Miss Margaret Aitken was at the same address earlier on before moving round the corner into Union Street where lived James Aitken, Writer. Miss Margaret must have died in or just before 1832 as we have a notice from the paper advertising sale of her furniture at 12 Union Street. Malcolm

 

[Ellie7]

George Aitkin and Jane Cairns were both living in Gorgie, Edinburgh at time of marr. Married at Gorgie,although records are St.Cuthbert.


ellie

 

[Ellie7]

Assisted
Record set New South Wales Passenger Lists
SexMale
George
Last name Aitken
Year 1852
Vessel William & Mary
Departure port
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Occupation Farm Laborer
Age 23
Birth year1829
Nationality/where bornBroughton in Kerness, Edinboro
Arrival port
Arrival year1852
Janet Cairns age 19 (C1833) Bridge of Allan,Stirlingshire
Thomas Aitkin age 26 Shepherd,Edinburgh
Margaret age 25 Penicuik

Not finding details on the Ships List from where it sailed from.Guess is Leith

Edit-Origin
Plymouth
1851 Sep 5
Destination
Sydney
1852 Jan 4

 

[DaveHam9]

I don't think we will know Ellie. There are two possibles for James and no clue re Isabella.

We have Thomas born abt 1822, George abt 1823 and Margaret abt 1825.

Piece: SCT1851/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian ED: 1
Civil Parish: St Cuthberts Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 697 Page: 11 Schedule: 40
Address: Gorgie Farm
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MURRAY William Head M M 27 Farm Servant Midlothian - Newton
MURRAY Margaret Wife M F 26 Midlothian - St Mary's Parish
MURRAY Thomas Son - M 1 Midlothian - St Cuthberts
MCCULLOCH Mary Servnt U F 16 House Servant East Lothian - Haddington

Also on the 'William and Mary' 1852 were William Murray, his wife Margaret (nee Aitken), and their son Thomas. She was from Kirkhill, Penicuick. They married in Penicuick on 19 Dec 1845.

'William & Mary' 1852 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2136, [4/4790] Page 125; Reel 2463, [4/4927]
MURRAY William 30
MURRAY Margaret 27
MURRAY Thomas 2
Reel 2463 As Inspected 4 Jan
William 30 Ploughman Dalkeith Co Edinboro Jame & Catherine both dead CofS Both None Good None Paid £3 for family
Margaret 27 Dom. Servt. Edinboro James & Isabella Aitken both dead CofS Both None Good None

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

AITKEN ELIZABETH 297/1853 V1853297 53 THOMAS MARGARET
AITKEN ISABELLA B 296/1854 V1854296 53 THOMAS MARGARET
AITKEN JOHN 5526/1858 THOMAS MARGARET BRISBANE MORETON BAY

Jane Munsden Aitken was born 24 Oct 1855, Durundur, Qld.

William Aitkin and Isabella Berwick m. 5 Nov 1785, Kennoway Fife.

Children (all born in Fife) are:
Jean b. 1786, Kennoway (m. John Thomson)
John b. 1789, Markinch (m. Catherine Lumsden, 1811, Largo)
William, b. 1793, Kennoway
James (Aiken) b. 1795, Kettle
David, b. 1800 Scoonie
Agnes, b. 1803, Scoonie (m. William Young)
Alexander, b. 1806, Kirkcaldy (m Janet Paton)

Lumsden/Munsden coincidence or descendant??

But no Young or Thomson or Paton passed down ??

Jane Lumsden Aitken and John Aitken were both born at Durundur, according to the Aitken Bible.

 

[Ellie7]

Burials
AITKEN ISABELLA -BROWN / WILLIAMS BROWN 48 F 27/08/1826
AITKEN ISABELLA -SMITH / JAS SMITH 42 F 12/12/1838
AITKEN ISABELLA -FRASER /50 F 09/09/1847
AITKEN JAMES 56 M 13/10/1827
AITKEN JAMES 36 M 26/09/1849
AITKEN JAMES 70 M 07/12/1849
AITKEN JAMES 74 M 31/03/1830
AITKEN JAMES 47 M 10/09/1840
AITKEN JAMES JOHN AITKEN 60 M 26/05/1848

All St.Cuthberts. but may have died in Broughton

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

I'd pick 1840.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

There is a Thomas Aitkin c1771 Midlothian in the 1841 Census -Street Porter at the law Courts.Daughter is
Elizabeth Aitken
Gender Female
Christening Date 18 Mar 1791
Christening Place SAINT CUTHBERTS, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name Thomas Aitken
Mother's Name Agnes Henderson

Marries a James Robertson lab.at laws Court.

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

There's a funny thing .
James Aitken
Gender Male
Christening Place SAINT CUTHBERTS, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date 20 Nov 1773
Birthplace Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name Thomas Aitken
Mother's Name Elizabeth Cairns

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

I'll laugh myself to sleep. :biggrin:

Middle names of descendants include

Berwick/Borwick/Borthwick, Munsden/Lumsden/Lumsdale, Murray and Moffat

Dave

 

[pengrove]

Just to add to the mix:

Margaret Aitken, sister of George and Thomas, who married William Murray, was born in Broughton in 1827 acccording to her daughter's QLD birth certficate. Eliza Lester Murray was born on 10 July 1860 at Coochin Coochin station, to William Murray (36), b. Dalkeith, and Margaret Aitken (33) b. Broughton.

My gt grandmother was Jane Munsden Buckpitt Covington, named after her late aunt Jane Munsden Buckpitt, nee Aitken. Her mother was Isabella Borthwick Aitken, daughter of Thomas. Munsden is clearly a mispronunciation of Lumsden that has persisted, and Borthwick may well be the same. Another sister of Isabella and Jane was Margaret Murray Aitken (named after her aunt, wife of William Murray). Murray was sometimes spelled Murry and Moray.

In all, the family of Thomas Aitken (and Margaret Storey) was:

Elizabeth (1853-1941)
Isabella Borthwick (1854-1935)
Jame Lumsden (1855-1876)
John (1858-1941)
Margaret Murray (1869-1960)

 

[pengrove]

oops - missed the youngest, Charlotte (1869-1960) who was the most interesting of all. Married a (German) soap manufacturer in QLD and went to live in Germany in the 1890s. This Aussie of Scottish descent lived through two world wars in Germany and died in Frankfurt in 1960.

 

[Ellie7]

This is where Christian name Steel comes from


Name
Margaret Stiel
Gender
Female
Christening Date
16 Aug 1754
Christening Place
, BIGGAR, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Father's Name
Thomas Stiel
Mother's Name
Margaret Sibbald

 

[DaveHam9]

Saved the image from film at the library yesterday and it seems rather odd.

There is no note to say one baptism is out of place and no correction of any dates, so how can that sequence be correct in the register?

Parish of Ipswich in the County of Stanley
Born - Baptised by William Lambie Nelson
26 Dec 1854 13 Mar 1855
21 May 1853 3 Sep 1854
11 Jun 1852 24 Mar 1855

Dave