The missing Sinfields

[ptjw7]

I have family in the 1881 census
John Sinfield b 1843 Widower ST Pancras
John Sinfield b 1867 Scholar Spitalfields
Ann Sinfield b 1869 Scholar Spitalfields
Harriet Sinfield b 1871 Scholar Spitalfields
I cannot find the fathers marriage or any births for the children.
or in any other census.
Any help gratefully received
Peter

 

[horse]

Hi Peter

A possibility...

Marriages Q3 1867
Kennard Maria Hannah
SINFIELD John Daniel
Wood Elizabeth Ann
Mile End
1c 1039

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
John Daniel Sinfield
Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Wood
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1867
Parish: Stepney St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father: James Sinfield
Spouse Father: Frederick Wood
Register Type: Parish Register
[Both of full age. Bachelor, spinster. Occ Labourer]

Geoff

 

[horse]

There is also this...

Marriages Q2 1866
Richards Jane
SINFIELD John
Winterbourne Mary
Newington
1d 310

Geoff

 

[ptjw7]

thanks for that horse but they just don't seem to fit, first one wrong father should be Thomas and the other one I traced but didn't fit with the 1881 as it says John is a widower.
Just seems so strange that I cannot find the births for the children.

Peter

 

[horse]

Yeah, I agree... something not right. Can't put my finger on it

 

[davelambert271]

hi peter

have you looked at Anc. trees. There is a John with parents Thomas and Charlotte Harvey, but that's where the matches end

dave

 

[davelambert271]

1861 England Census
about John Sinfield




Name:
John Sinfield

Age:
18

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1843

Registration District:
Bethnal Green

Sub-registration District:
Hackney Road

Piece:250
Folio:37B
Page Number:28

Thomas Sinfield 55 Shorditch Silk Weaver
Charlotte Sinfield 50 Spitalfields
John Sinfield 18 Bethnal Green Labourer
Benjamin Sinfield 14
Joseph Sinfield 10
James Sinfield 8
Julia Sinfield 5

 

[horse]

1871 appears to be the sticking point, I wonder if they emigrated and returned or similar

 

[davelambert271]

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: John Sinfield

Spouse Name: Jane Knight

Record Type: Marriage

Event Date: 13 Oct 1873

Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great

Borough: Tower Hamlets

Father Name: Thomas Sinfield

Spouse Father: Thomas Knight

witnesses Benjamin and Julia Sinfield (see previous post)

 

[horse]

That looks good, Dave... albeit a little later than expected.

 

[horse]

So offspring should be in mother's name...

 

[horse]

Hmmm...

Not necessarily Jane Knight, though (mother)

 

[horse]

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: John Sinfield

Spouse Name: Jane Knight

Record Type: Marriage

Event Date: 13 Oct 1873

Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great

Borough: Tower Hamlets

Father Name: Thomas Sinfield

Spouse Father: Thomas Knight

witnesses Benjamin and Julia Sinfield (see previous post)

Image says he is a bachelor and occ. Turner..

 

[ptjw7]

That's the Sinfields I had found but discounted because of the 1881 census, I have now found them as well in the 1881 census so I am more puzzled now by the original find!
The original find fits in with a marriage of a Julia Sinfield in which the address was given as 5 Heneague Lane which is the address of the John Sinfield in post 1.
The only trouble is that none of the information on the 1881 census is confirmed by any other data that I can find.

Peter

 

[ptjw7]

I'm giving up on this as its driving me nuts.
The family just keep in the shadows.
The children seem to disappear only to emerge later when they get married the parents just remarry with the spouse still alive.
So on the back burner as its given me a headache!!:''(

Peter