There once was a Thomas Nolan from Limerick

[castanea1985]

Hi, I’m relatively new to researching my Irish roots, and would like to know. The best source to search St.Michaels, Limerick.
I’ve found some
I’m trying to find more information about Thomas Nolan, b. 18th Sept 1841 St. Michaels parish, Limerick.
He enlisted in the army at Fermoy in Sept 1855, aged 14
His army number was #866 and served in the 80th Regiment.
He had a son Thomas born in Hong Kong in 1875.
I’m trying to find a wife for the elder Thomas, a baptism, and any more children, as I believe a daughter of his was my gt grandmother - only found through DNA
Please search my initial thread years ago for the full story!

 

[solidrock2]

Can't find a marriage for Thomas snr. yet but I think these maybe his other children, the births are all 1873 but tht may just be when they were registered....
William L NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 61Page Number 27Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

Annie NolanSex FemaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 61Page Number 27Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1 Volume 1196

Margaret NolanSex FemaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 113Page Number 25Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

George J NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 16Page Number 26Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

Thomas J NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1875Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 42Page Number 32Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

This maybe Annie back in England in 1881...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-6743

and 1891...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3T21-6ZM

and possibly 1901...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSNP-CGH

 

[solidrock2]

This could be Thomas Snr. pension record, it's on FMP and could show his wife's name.

Thomas NolanAge 14Pension Place United KingdomMilitary Final Rank PTEBirth Year (Estimated) 1841Birthplace LimerickDocument Type DBox Number 2066Series Name WO97Source Reference 972066015Affiliate Image Identifier 972066015First Image Number WO97-2066-015-001.jpgNumber of Images 8

 

[solidrock2]

Thomas Nolan. Service number 866. Rank, Drummer. 1871, 80th.Staffordshire Volunteers.

 

[emeltee]

No next of kin given in the Army Records.

 

[castanea1985]

Thanks for all your replies. Have got Thomas seniors records and gone through them with a fine tooth comb.
Could I have got the wrong parent for the younger Thomas? I could only find Thomas Senior, who I assumed was the father, as he was in the 80th and stationed in Hong Kong between 1872 and 1876

 

[castanea1985]

Can't find a marriage for Thomas snr. yet but I think these maybe his other children, the births are all 1873 but tht may just be when they were registered....
William L NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 61Page Number 27Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

Annie NolanSex FemaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 61Page Number 27Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1 Volume 1196

Margaret NolanSex FemaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 113Page Number 25Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

George J NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1873Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 16Page Number 26Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

Thomas J NolanSex MaleBirth Date 1875Birthplace Hong Kong, ChinaMilitary Regiment 80th FootSource Collection Title British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005Line Number 42Page Number 32Source Publication Title GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Reference REG1Volume 1196

This maybe Annie back in England in 1881...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-6743

and 1891...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3T21-6ZM

and possibly 1901...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSNP-CGH

Wow that was good going all those kids… I thought the 80th regiment were only in Hong Kong from 1872-1876
My grandfather was born in Manchester in 1906, so thinking that maybe isn’t his mother?

 

[castanea1985]

No next of kin given in the Army Records.

Do they always show the wife’s name?

 

[emeltee]

Some give next of kin, others don't. It varies, possibly to do with which papers have survived.

 

[emeltee]

Thomas served in India as well as China as he received the India General Service Medal.

 

[castanea1985]

Hold anyone know which church/chapel the younger Thomas married Ann Reddy?
Just wanted to confirm if father Thomas was listed.
M Jan-Mar 1903 Galway vol 4 p178

 

[emeltee]

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...marriages_1903/10228/5722810.pdf8/5722810.pdf


Father listed as Thmas, a Soldier. Also noted as Dead.

 

[solidrock2]

Looks like Thomas Jnr. who married Ann Reddy may have gone to the USA.
1930 census Queens, New York, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4P4-B2J

 

[castanea1985]

Looks like Thomas Jnr. who married Ann Reddy may have gone to the USA.
1930 census Queens, New York, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4P4-B2J

Looks like Thomas Jnr. who married Ann Reddy may have gone to the USA.
1930 census Queens, New York, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4P4-B2J

Yes they left in 1821

 

[castanea1985]

Could this be the marriage of Thomas Senior:
11.12.1870
Church: St.Patrick’s, Belfast RC

Thomas Nolan age 26
Address: Belfast Barracks
Occ: Drummer 80 th Regiment
Batchelor
Father: Thomas Nolan
Occ: boot maker

Sarah Armstrong
Address: Barracks
Occ: servant
Aged 18
Spinster
Father: James Armstrong
Occ: labourer

Both RC
Witnesses: Patrick Nolan & Margaret Gleeson
Ceremony by Rev W Martin

I know there’s a discrepancy in ages from this and his army records, but I’ve had those in other ancestors too ?

 

[solidrock2]

Could this be the marriage of Thomas Senior:
11.12.1870
Church: St.Patrick’s, Belfast RC

Thomas Nolan age 26
Address: Belfast Barracks
Occ: Drummer 80 th Regiment
Batchelor
Father: Thomas Nolan
Occ: boot maker

Sarah Armstrong
Address: Barracks
Occ: servant
Aged 18
Spinster
Father: James Armstrong
Occ: labourer

Both RC
Witnesses: Patrick Nolan & Margaret Gleeson
Ceremony by Rev W Martin

I know there’s a discrepancy in ages from this and his army records, but I’ve had those in other ancestors too ?

Sounds good, the regiment and rank are right and the age is only 3 years out, he may of lied when he joined up. If only we could find his death it may help and who is Patrick, brother???