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Thomas ANGEL born Ashburton, Devon

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This is a recap of some of the ANGEL direct line in my tree. I started with this death in Victoria and worked backwards until I hit a brick wall.

Death
Name: Stephen Angel
Death Place: Victoria
Age: 44
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Marr Clark
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11828


SCHEDULE B
1876 Deaths in the District of North Fitzroy in the Colony of Victoria Registered by Catherine Langan
33 - 15th October 1876 McKean St Town of Fitzroy County of Bourke - Stephen Angel Merchant - Male 44 years 11 months - 1. Pulmonary Consumption 2. 7 years 3. Dr. Wilkins 9th Oct 1876 - Thomas Angel Gentleman Mary Angel formerly Clark - Henry J. R. Lewis Authorised Agent Young Street Fitzroy - Catherine Langan 17th October 1876 North Fitzroy - 17th October 1876 Melbourne Cemetery Henry J. R. Lewis - M. ? Bowman Joseph Clowes ? - Paisley Scotland in Victoria 25 years - Fitzroy Victoria 28 years Elizabeth Lewton - Elizabeth 15 Mary 14 Samuel 11 Emma Constance dead Louisa Marie 6 Joseph Lewton 4

PROV Index to Wills, Probate and Administration Records 1841-1925
Given Name Stephen
Surname Angel
Alternative Name
Title
File number 15/311
Death Date 15 Oct 1876
Death Date notes
Grant Date 29 Nov 1876
Grant Date notes
Nature of Grant Probate
General Notes
Occupation Landowner
Residence Fitzroy
Country of Residence
State of Residence
Residence notes
To whom committed Elizabeth A. Angel and Samuel Haigh

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Monday 16 October 1876 p.1
Deaths.
ANGEL.-On the 15th inst., at his late residence, McKean-street, North Fitzroy, Mr. Stephen Angel, in the 45th year of his age. Glasgow and Paisley papers please copy.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Monday 16 October 1876 p.8
Funeral Notices.
THE Friends of the late Mr. STEPHEN ANGEL are most respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, the Melbourne General Cemetery. The funeral procession is appointed to leave his late residence, McKean-street, North Fitzroy, on Tuesday, the 17th inst, at a quarter to 3 o'clock.
HENRY J. R. LEWIS, undertaker, Nos. 198 and 200 Young-street, off Johnston-street, Fitzroy.

Melbourne General Cemetery
Source: Melbourne General Cemetery memorial transcriptions [to 1989]
In memory of
George LEWTON
of Bristol, England
who after a long illness, died in the full assurance of faith in Christ Jesus.
18 Nov 1866, age 50 years

Emma Constance ANGEL
died 28 Sep 1869, age 1 year and 10 months

Stephen ANGEL
Died 15 Oct 1876, age 44 years and 11 months
Native of Paisley, Scotland.
Comment: Presbyterian Section G
 

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Stephen died in 1876 and had been in Victoria 25 years. His arrival has not been found. Family lore says he had been in the goldfields of California prior to his arrival.

From the parents named I found this marriage:

573.2/2 FR402
08/05/1818 ANGEL THOMAS MARY CLARK/FR402 M Paisley Middle /RENFREW 573/002 0020 0148

1818 May 3 Thomas Angel Private 40th Reg & Mary Clark 3/1
Married by ? ? Proclamation 8th May

And then this birth/baptism record in Paisley Library:

573.3/6 FR1051 (Angle)
Stephen b. 5 Nov c. 4 Dec 1831 Paisley Low, Renfrew

1841 Census
Paisley Low - 12 Prussia St. Vol 4, page 25
(East side of 25 Causeyside to Gordon's Lane)(Prussia st no longer exists)
Angle
Thomas 55 Pensioner
Mary 45
Thomas 20 Cloth Lapper
Sarah 15
Samuel 12
Stephen 7

Piece: SCT1841/573 Place: Paisley -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 47 Page: 25
Address: 12 Prussia St
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANGLE Thomas M 55 Pensioner Renfrewshire
ANGLE Mary F 45 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Thomas M 20 Cloth Lapper Renfrewshire
ANGLE Sarah F 15 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Samuel M 12 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Stephen M 7 Renfrewshire

Thomas had been in the army so I searched for his records and found the following:

Enlisted in Somerset 24th April 1803
Discharged 24th June 1821
5ft 5 3/4 , brown hair, grey eyes..dark complexion. A labourer by trade.

Name: Thomas Angel
Campaign or Service: Napoleonic Wars
Service Date: 1793-1815
Service Location: Europe
Regiment or Unit Name: 40th Regiment of Foot

ANGEL THOMAS 1785 - 1803 British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Ashburton, Devon, England
First name(s) THOMAS
Last name ANGEL
Birth year 1785
Birth parish ASHBURTON
Birth town ASHBURTON
Birth county DEVON
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number -
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Royal Regiment of Veterans
Document Type Discharge
Attestation year 1803
Attestation Day 24
Attestation Month 4
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months -
Discharge Corps 4TH ROYAL REGT OF VETERANS
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 1125
Box Record Number 10
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain


Indexed discharge papers for Thomas Angel: served 1803-1821 in the 40th and the 4th Royal Veteran, was 36 when discharged in 1821, and was born Ashburton, Devonshire.

Peninsula Medal Roll 1793-1814
Name Regiment
ANGEL, Thomas 40TH FOOT
Name - Rank - No of Clasps - Particulars of Clasps
ANGEL Thomas - 6 - V T B B S V

The Military General Service Medal will be the medal awarded, however, no bars would have been awarded between 1801 and 1806. Battles of the Peninsular War were awarded bars to the medal, and based on the letters given, are as follows:-

V = Vimiera 21 Aug 1808 ** 2nd Brigade: General Ronald Ferguson included 40th
T = Talavera ** 4th Division Sir Alexander Campbell - Kemmiss' Brigade included 1/40th
B = Busaco 27 Sep 1810 ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole 2nd Brigade: commanded by Colonel Kemmis: included 1st/40th
B = Badajoz 17 Mar -6 Apr 1812 ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole - probably included 40th
S = Salamanca ** included 40th
V = Vitoria 21 Jun 1813 ** 4th Division included 40th


Burial
Abbey 08/07/1848 Thomas ANGEL
Thomas Angel, 4th Battalion of Veterans, resided at Prussia Street, born in England, age 71

Paisley Abbey Churchyard S2:425
Thos. Angel & Steven Gifford & their wives & chn.

Steven was an old army buddy who served in the same regiment.
 
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Thomas 36 in 1821 when discharged and 55 in 1841 census.

I found the burial details in the Paisley Library when I was there in Feb 2008. Age at death is probably out.

Born Ashburton around 1785 or earlier.

Mary Clark's parents were Daniel & Sarah (Nicol)

Names of children of Thomas & Mary are interesting:

Thomas - 1st son - father's father - ??
Sarah Nicol - 1st dau - mother's mother - yes
Daniel - 2nd son - mother's father - yes
Samuel - 3rd son - not father's name
Stephen

Family lore says that Stephen had an uncle Samuel. So, a Thomas and brother Samuel born in Ashburton area:

A Samuel (1792) and a Thomas (1790) Angel baptised in Buckfastleigh to John & Mary (nee HILL), but they'd be too young. John and Mary married Buckfastleigh 1786.

Ashburton baptisms:
Samuel 19 Nov 1779
Thomas 17 Oct 1781
Parents Richard & Elizabeth

Richard ANGEL married Elizabeth KINGWELL at Ashburton 12 Apr 1764. The 1841 census instructions were to 'round down' ages for those over 15 to the nearest 5 years. So, Thomas could have been 59 & 11 months but still recorded as 55.

If 1785 is correct and you ignore the possiblilty he had a brother Samuel then there is this one:

Thos ANGEL c. 4 April 1785 Ilsington, Devon
John & Joan
Batch: C051221
 
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Not an easy one, Dave..

Not sure what to make of this :rolleyes:

1861
Civil Parish: Tormoham
Town: Torquay
County: Devon
RD: Newton Abbot
Sub-RD: Torquay
ED: 10; Piece: 1411; Folio: 105; Page: 45

Thomas Angel 77 [b. Islington, Devon. Mason]
C Angel 74 [b. Bridgewater]
Samuel Angel 35 son [b. Islington. Mason]
Frederick A Angel 30 son [do. Tailor]

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Going back to Stephen, there is this..

UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910
Name: Stephen Angel
Age: 14
Birth Year: abt 1831
Registration or Indenture Date: 15 May 1845
Vessel: Minerva

Having trouble getting the image at present..

There is another Stephen Angel, b. 1810 Refrewshire, military service.. on FS

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It's a brick wall with many oral stories passed down 4 generations. Some I've proved to be plainly wrong. Others I can't prove or disprove.

Naming pattern would seem to rule out John as his father - 4 sons and no John.

Age at burial is way out - that's how I read the record at Paisley Library.

Age at attestation or at discharge is not always reliable.

No clue in his service record as to father's name.

The story re Samuel is strange. Said to have been a minister in a church in Paisley for over 30 years, with a plaque on the wall of the church to commemorate that. I walked to all the churches in Paisley and found nothing to suggest Samuel ever existed.
 

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The story re Samuel is strange. Said to have been a minister in a church in Paisley for over 30 years, with a plaque on the wall of the church to commemorate that. I walked to all the churches in Paisley and found nothing to suggest Samuel ever existed.
Yeah, facts very thin on the ground in this one :rolleyes:

I suppose can only stick with the facts and keep trying to build on them :eek:

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Thanks Geoff.

Apart from the 6 in the census I posted there seems to be only one other individual female Angle/Angel/Angell in Scotland in 1841.

That's new. It fits . The story pased down to me was that he want to sea at 14 and ended up in California and then Victoria.

I would say there is only one Stephen born around that time.

The next Stephen was born 1855 and the next 1881.

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Family lore says Stephen's father died when he was 4 and that Thomas was his uncle.

Death reg has Thomas & Mary Clark - I don't mind that but the birth/baptism should then have different parents.

Name Stephen Angle
Gender Male
Christening Date 04 Dec 1831
Christening Place LOW CHURCH, PAISLEY, RENFREW
Birth Date 05 Nov 1831
Father's Name Thomas Angle
Mother's Name Mary Clark
 

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Ok, some more fiction. :biggrin: The ANGEL family were Jewish lacemakers from Lincolnshire.

I can't see the service record index bit on FS.
 

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Probably clutching at straws, but this one has a a different film no. than the one b. 1810, not giving anything up, so probably not much use :rolleyes:

Stephen Angel
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records
Name Stephen Angel
Event Type Military Service
Event Year Range 1845-1854
Event Place United Kingdom
Birthplace Renfrewshire

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Thanks Geoff.

Has to be the same person.

Stephen, my gg-grandfather.

I also have a photo of the chest he arrived with.
 
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Ok. It does say 1810.

I can't see how there could be a Stephen Angel born Renfrew in 1810.

BT 112-116, 119-120, series BT113, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.
 
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