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Thomas ANGEL & Mary CLEMMENTS

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Hello,

I'm puzzled by this:

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ANGEL Thomas CLEMENTS Mary Ashton under Lyne Civil Marriage Tameside RM/3/66


Marriages Sep 1843
ANGEL Thomas Ashton &c 20 79
CLEMENTS Mary Ashton &c 20 79

Ashton under Lyne - Lancashire 1837 - 1848 so why Cheshire?


Send this Application to:
MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE £ 9.00 Superintendent Registrar, The Register Office, Dukinfield Town Hall, King Street, Dukinfield, Cheshire, SK16 4LA, UK
Or GRO ?

The other strange thing is that a daughter has a middle name of Clarendon and the daughters death certificate just received has her mother's maiden name as CLARENDON.

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Historically Ashton under Lyme was in Lancashire Dave but came under Greater Manchester (which borders with Cheshire) after the 1972 re-bordering of counties.
Probably best ordering from GRO at Southport rather than be redirected :)

Didn't locate the marriage in Lancs records, by the way
 

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Thanks Woody,

Bit curious because I was told it was at Stockport but shows as Ashton under Lyne on the Cheshire BMD. And it says the record is held at Tameside.

Oh. http://www.tameside.gov.uk/ ;)

Not a church marriage.

A brother of my gg grandfather.
 
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Quite curious. They were both born in Paisley but somehow ended up in Ashton under Lyne where they had two children before the family returned to Paisley where one was born 4 Jan 1855. Yes, I have a copy of that 1855 one. :D

1855 ANGEL STEPHEN GIFFORD M PAISLEY LOW CHURCH /RENFREW 573/02 0002

1855 January Fourth 4 hrs PM 13 Gordon's Lane Paisley Thomas ANGEL 34 labourer Paisley
married 1844 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire 2 boys living 1 girl deceased
Mary ANGEL maiden name CLEMENT her 4th child 34 years Paisley ?
 
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:2fun:

Well his father, also Thomas was born in Devon. He was in the 40th Reg of Foot stationed in Scotland where he married in Paisley. That's one more brick wall. Can't find where he was born in Devon or be sure about his parents. Might have to revisit that one day. ;)


On the Waterloo Medal Roll - 1st Battalion 40th Regiment of Foot - Captain R. P. Stewart's Company.

V Vimiera ** 2nd Brigade: General Ronald Ferguson included 40th
T Talavera ** 4th Division Sir Alexander Campbell - Kemmiss' Brigade included 1/40th
B Busaco ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole 2nd Brigade: commanded by Colonel Kemmis: included 1st/40th
B Badajoz ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole - probably included 40th
S Salamanca ** included 40th
V Vitoria ** 4th Division included 40th
 

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Yes, turning into a speciality for Gibbo. :2fun:

Well might prove difficult with half my convicts being from Ireland and not convicted in England. :eek:
 

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1843 Marriage solemnized at the Israelites Sanctuary Ashton Under Lyne in the District of Ashton and Oldham in the Counties of Lancashire and Cheshire
No. 66 - Twentyfifth of September 1843
Thomas Angel of full age Bachelor Cloth Lapper Katherine Street Ashton under Lyne Thomas Angel Horse Trainer
Mary Clements of full age Spinster Works in a Warehouse Katherine Street Ashton under Lyne James Clements Weaver
Married in the Israelites Sanctuary according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Israelites by me Aaron Woollacott
Parties: Thomas signed and Mary by her x mark Witnesses: Edward Odgen, Elizabeth Woollacott
John Whitehead Registrar


Mary is listed as a spinster so maiden name not Clarendon.
 
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1841
Piece: SCT1841/573 Place: Paisley -Renfrewshire ED: 8
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 51 Page: 14
Address: 1 Stow Place
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LAKIE Grace F 50 Cotton Winder Outside Census County (1841)
CLEMENT Mary F 20 Female Servant England
McCRAE Robt M 45 Hand Loom Weaver Outside Census County (1841)


Death 1868 ANGEL MARY [CLEMENT] 46 ALLISON 1868 501/ 3 Old or West Kilpatrick

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1868 Deaths in the Parish of Old Kilpatrick in the County of Dumbarton
No. 3 - Mary Angel (Married to Thomas Angel Pier-Master) - 1868 January Fourth 9h. 15m. P.M. Scott's Lane Bowling Old Kilpatrick - F - 46 years - James Clement Soldier, deceased Mary Clement M.S. Allison, deceased - (a) Bronchitis 14 days (b) Congestion of Lungs As Certified by John Spiers Surgeon Old Kilpatrick - Stephen Angel Son of the deceased (present) - 1868 January 6th at Old Kilpatrick M. Findlay Registrar
 

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George Clement
Baptism Date: 10 Oct 1830
Parish: Salford, St Philip
Father: James Clement
Mother: Mary Clement
Item Number: 1
Archive Roll: 955
[Occ. Soldier]

Marriage of James Clement/s to Mary Allison ??
 
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