Thomas Barlow 1796-1864, Hannah Barlow 1813-1864

[mikehardy]

Cannot find their marriage record, they had children together, can anybody give a clue or help?

I would like to find Thomas Barlow's farther and Mother and birth, but not sure how to research this far back, can someone on here give me advise please.

Mike.

 

[p.risboy]

Where were they born, and where in the census are they.

 

[davelambert271]

have you looked at this site

https://familysearch.org/search/

 

[mikehardy]

Thomas Barlow: Birth/Residence 1861 census, Death FMB 1837-1915

Hannah Barlow: Birth 1851, 1881, Residence 1881, Death FMB 1837-1915

Birth - Thomas Barlow. Wrexham Denbighshire Wales. Hannah Barlow. Erbistock, Denbighshire. Wales

Mike.

 

[mikehardy]

Tried familysearch with no luck.

 

[horse]

Is this your Hannah in 1851?

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County: Staffordshire
RD: West Bromwich
Sub-RD: West Bromwich North
ED: 1h
HO107; Piece: 2026; Folio: 137; Page: 11

Hannah Barlow 38 [Head, mar, b. Erbistock]
Ann E Barlow 20 [b. Abenbury, Flintshire, Wales]
Mary Barlow 17 [do]
Thomas Barlow 15 [do]
Robert Barlow 14 [do]
Richard Barlow 12 [b. Flintshire]
Jane Barlow 10 [b. Liverpool]
John Barlow 8 [b. Holzewell, Flintshire]
Frances Barlow 4 [W Bromwich, Staffs]

Possibly Thomas in 1861, Thomas and Hannah may be living apart, unless I've gone wrong somewhere. I notice Wrexham covers the Abenbury area.

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Hill Top St James
County: Staffordshire
RD: West Bromwich
Sub-RD: West Bromwich North East
ED: 7
RG 9; Piece: 2029; Folio: 4; Page: 4

Thomas Barlow 65 [b. Wrexham. Occ: some sort of Agent]
Thomas Barlow 25 [Son, b. Wrexham]
Robt Barlow 24 [do]
John Barlow 18 [do]
Frances Barlow 14 [W Bromwich]
Alfred W Barlow 9 [do]

Thomas d. 1864 and Hannah in 1882

Geoff

 

[mikehardy]

Hi Geoff, Yes, you have the correct Hannah and Thomas. I cannot find any reference to their marriage!! I think its pure coincidence Hannah's maiden name is Barlow.

Mike.

 

[horse]

Hi Geoff, Yes, you have the correct Hannah and Thomas. I cannot find any reference to their marriage!! I think its pure coincidence Hannah's maiden name is Barlow.

Mike.

We could probably narrow the dates down, taking into account Hannah's age and if they married before Ann was born, the marriage could be between 1829 - 1831.

Geoff

Edit: Thomas is quite a bit older than Hannah, he could have been married before and if his first wife was still living may not have married Hannah!

 

[mikehardy]

I have done further research on FMP and find:

Hannah (Evans): Baptism, 1813, Erbistock, Denbighshire. Could this be Hannah Barlow?

Thomas Barlow: Baptism, 1806, Wrexham. Denbighshire. Ten years after his berth!!?

To get any further I have to spend cash or get a 2 week free membership.

Mike.

 

[mikehardy]

I have looked at Hannah's baptism transcript record, father and mother first names given - is that correct? do I have to look at the full record to get further info?

The initial baptism record for a Thomas Barlow is given as 1806 in Wrexham, nothing earlier, is this worth pursuing? considering the 10 year gap from birth.

Mike.

 

[mikehardy]

There is a reference to a marriage - Thomas Barlow to a Hannah Evans (maiden name) at St Oswald's Church, Chester, Feb 28, 1828 (family search). The transcript does not show any parents info, do you think the actual certificate will show this info. ref 1538 - 2000

Mike.

 

[horse]

Hi Mike

I remember seeing something similar when I first looked, but it was a contributed entry. However, I've just rechecked and there is this, it says it is from the PR's. There still aren't any parents listed unfortunately.

Is this what you'e seen?

Name: Thomas Barlow
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 04 Feb 1828
Event Place: St Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name: Hannah Evans
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
GS Film number: 2068356
Digital Folder Number: 004018802
Image Number: 00097

Geoff

 

[horse]

There is this if you haven't seen it, but it doesn't appear to cover Chester, St Oswald's. It may be worth contacting them.

http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Geoff

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks Geoff, I have two options here, I think, obtain a birth cert. for Alfred W Barlow 1851 (child), V18, p669, or the marriage cert. Which is the one most likely to show the parents?

Mike.

 

[horse]

FMP has 7 marriages between 1826 and 1831 for a Thomas Barlow, 6 of them at St Oswald's and 2 for 1828. There are 4 for Hannah Evans in the same period, with 2 in 1828. I'm not a subscriber so I can't get any more info.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Hi Mike

Certificates are not really my forte, Dave Lambert is good in that area, he may advise the best way forward.

Geoff

 

[mikehardy]

I now have the baptism record for Thomas Barlow, I need help in understanding the record: At the end of the line - 'Dorothy of Halton' is this her abode before marriage?




Mike.

 

[horse]

The image hasn't worked.

There is a Halton in Cheshire, 20-30 miles NE of Chester.

Geoff

 

[mikehardy]

Yes I know!! but who lived there?

 

[horse]

I'll recheck the censuses...