Thomas CAIRNS & family in Scotland in 1841

[DaveHam9]

I'd like a look up please for the following CAIRNS family in 1841 and 1851 - probably in Midlothian.

Janet DRAPER - Thomas CAIRNS
Marriage: 11 Nov 1837 Logie, Perth, Scotland


Thomas b. abt 1810
Janet b. abt 1805
Mary b. abt 1836 ? Stirling
Margaret b. abt 1837 Stirling
David b. abt 1840 Stirling
Janet b. ??
John b. abt 1843 Edinbnurgh, Midlothian
Catherine b. abt 1849 Edinburgh, Midlothian

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

I'd like a look up please for the following CAIRNS family in 1841 and 1851 - probably in Midlothian.

Janet DRAPER - Thomas CAIRNS
Marriage: 11 Nov 1837 Logie, Perth, Scotland


Thomas b. abt 1810
Janet b. abt 1805
Mary b. abt 1836 ? Stirling
Margaret b. abt 1837 Stirling
David b. abt 1840 Stirling
Janet b. ??
John b. abt 1843 Edinbnurgh, Midlothian
Catherine b. abt 1849 Edinburgh, Midlothian

Thanks.

Dave

OK DAVE is this family related to magicians.:biggrin:

I can understand not finding them in one census, but two!!!!!!!

cheers
"really" crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks for looking.

Thomas & Janet and all 6 children arrived in Sydney in 1852. Most ended up in Queensland.

The following places of birth are from privately submited IGI entries so I don't know if they are reliable or not:

Mary b. abt 1836 Hill of Rip, Stirling
Margaret b. abt 1837 Saint Ninians, Stirling
David b. abt 1840 ,, Stirling

Janet b. ?? Bridge of Allan, Stirling

I would have guessed they were either in Stirling or Midlothian in 1841 and in Midlothian in 1851.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks for looking.

Thomas & Janet and all 6 children arrived in Sydney in 1852. Most ended up in Queensland.

The following places of birth are from privately submited IGI entries so I don't know if they are reliable or not:

Mary b. abt 1836 Hill of Rip, Stirling
Margaret b. abt 1837 Saint Ninians, Stirling
David b. abt 1840 ,, Stirling

Janet b. ?? Bridge of Allan, Stirling

I would have guessed they were either in Stirling or Midlothian in 1841 and in Midlothian in 1851.

Dave

Hi Dave

You should be hearing me scream by now across the Aussie/Asia waters

I checked England 1851 census just in case they were already making there way to a port.
I even checked under Draper and nothing. Was Janet's mother's maiden name also Cairns.

They have to be somewhere

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I must have my music too loud! :biggrin:

Yes, we have done part of the family before:

1896/C03342 CAIRNS Janet John DRAPER Mary CAIRNS
The Brisbane Courier – Saturday 22nd February 1896

DEATHS
CAIRNS.-on the 4th February, at Cairnsville, Breakfast Creek, Janet, the dearly beloved wife of Thomas Cairns, and mother of Mrs. W. J. F. Cooksley, aged 90 years and 9 months.

Regards,

Dave

PS. For light refreshment you may try to finish off the KELTIE please

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I've looked without the family name and birth county Stirling and census country Stirling or Midlothian or anywhere for all of them and can't find anything in 1841.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

A private IGI:

Janet DRAPPER c. 31 May 1805 Bridge of Allan, Stirling

Father: John Drapper Mother: Mary Cairns

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

The family name is CAIRNS but it appears in Queensland sometimes as CAIRNES and in shipping records as CARNS and in 1841 as CAIRENS:


1841
Civil pariish St. Ninians
County Sterling
Address Bandeath
Thomas Cairens age 30 occ ag lab
Janet Cairens age 30
Janet Cairens age 9
Mary Cairens age 2
Margaret Cairens age 8mths


The family left on the "William and Mary" which left Plymouth on 5 Sep 1851.
Thomas Carns age 40 farm labourer
Janet age 38
Mary age 16
Margaret age 14
David age 12
John age 9
Catherine age 3


The youngest child Catherine was born in Edinburgh in 1849 but I don't know where the family was at census time in 1851.

Please check again if the family can be found in 1851. I've found nothing yet in FreeCEN.

Thanks.

Dave