Thomas & Charlotte WEBB

[horse]

Having problems with all the names in St Pancras, so was wondering if Thomas and Charlotte were from somewhere else and found this:

We know Charlotte was b. Oxfordshire, the 1841 census has the 3 offspring not BiC.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yeah, but many things don't fit. Surrey and plasterer but shipping record Marylebone and garden labourer.

Charles Webb
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Apr 1827
Father: Thomas Webb
Mother: Charlotte Webb
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers
[b. 8 Nov 1826]
[2 William St Portland Square, Labourer]

 

[horse]

Yeah, but many things don't fit.

Very true...

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see the marriage of Charles to Mary A Hyde. I presume Jane is her sister.

Trying to prove father of that Charles is not Thomas.

Battersea and Newington are too close.

 

[horse]

I can't see the marriage of Charles to Mary A Hyde. I presume Jane is her sister.

Trying to prove father of that Charles is not Thomas.

It is but she is a widow, will have a different maiden name

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Jane Hyde is a widow?

This one is hard enough already.

 

[horse]

Jane Hyde is a widow?

This one is hard enough already.

Sure is :'(

A widow that is..

Geoff

 

[horse]

If this is him in 1861, he isn't married then, so it narrows it down a bit..

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County: Surrey
RD: Newington
Sub-RD: St Mary
ED: 13; Piece: 345; Folio: 149; Page: 19

Hannah Webb 56 wid [b. Southwark]
Matilda Webb 35 dau [do]
Charles Webb 33 son [b. Newington. Shoe Maker]
John Hobbs 34
Catharine Hobbs 27
Ann Hobbs 2
Mary Hobbs 5/12

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1837
Bayley John Bermondsey 4 17
GREENLAND Joseph Bermondsey 4 17
Hayes Edward Jacob Bermondsey 4 17
HYDE Edward Bermondsey 4 17
TUMLEY Maria Bermondsey 4 17
TURFFREY Harriot Bermondsey 4 17
WEBB Jane Bermondsey 4 17
WHITE Harriet Louisa Bermondsey 4 17

 

[horse]

If this is him in 1861, he isn't married then, so it narrows it down a bit..

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County: Surrey
RD: Newington
Sub-RD: St Mary
ED: 13; Piece: 345; Folio: 149; Page: 19

Hannah Webb 56 wid [b. Southwark]
Matilda Webb 35 dau [do]
Charles Webb 33 son [b. Newington. Shoe Maker]
John Hobbs 34
Catharine Hobbs 27
Ann Hobbs 2
Mary Hobbs 5/12

Geoff

Wrong mother, so he could be discounted..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok that one ruled out.

Name: Chas Webb
Age (Original): 52
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1829
Birthplace: Newington, Surrey, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Retired Cab Proprietor
Address: 100 Chatham Rd
Event Place: Battersea, Surrey, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 646 / 84
Page Number: 7
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Chas Webb Head M 52 Newington, Surrey, England
Elizabeth Foden Niece F 16 Chelsea, Middlesex, England

 

[DaveHam9]

1851 3 Felix place - a plasterer

1852 Hudd st - a porter ??

??
Charles Webb
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1852
Father: Charles Webb [porter]
Mother: Mary Webb
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers
[b. 4 Apr. 1852][Abode Hudd St]

 

[horse]

1851 3 Felix place - a plasterer

1852 Hudd st - a porter ??

??
Charles Webb
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1852
Father: Charles Webb [porter]
Mother: Mary Webb
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers
[b. 4 Apr. 1852][Abode Hudd St]

Weird, I just found that also

Geoff

 

[horse]

Do you want the image sending?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Shipping record says Hoxton New Town for junior.

Not yet thanks. I'm trying to rule that baptism out.

 

[DaveHam9]

Is a Rough Settlement Examination in England the same as a Paupers Report in Scotland?

Islington Exam Books ?

 

[horse]

Is a Rough Settlement Examination in England the same as a Paupers Report in Scotland?

Islington Exam Books ?

I'm not too sure, but I think it is an assessment when [literally] rough notes are taken of a given situation, but not necessarily for paupers, i.e. displaced persons, but poor. It came under the 1st Poor Law Act of the 1600's as I recall.

Geoff

 

[horse]

What's Junior's age in the shipping log?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Age 5 and it says 'Oxton' New Town

No age at death

Death 11778/1934 WEBB CHARLES - CHARLES - MARY - ROCKDALE

Not in Ryerson - Can't find a notice in TROVE

Woronora
Details
Surname: WEBB Type: Burial
First Name: CHARLES Other Names:
Date of Death: 29/07/1934
Location Section Position
Anglican SECTION AD 0755

 

[horse]

The reason I asked about his age was this, parents weren't even married at his birth in 1846

The address is interesting if nothing else

Charles Webb
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Aug 1850
Father: Charles Webb
Mother: Mary Ann Webb
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
[b. 3 Oct 1846. Abode: Singleton St., Hoxton Occ: Clerk]

On that note I need to go, speak later Dave.

Geoff