Thomas & Eliza COTTAM

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec 1856 Manchester 8d 516
COTTAM Thomas & PRICE Eliza

Arrival ???

Birth 1595/1869 COTTAM SETH H - THOMAS ELIZA - SYDNEY * 13 Jun 1869

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tue 6 Nov 1906 p.6
GOLDEN WEDDINGS
COTTAM - PRICE.-November 6, 1856, at St. Mary's Church, St. Mary's Gate, Manchester, by the Rev. T. Slash, Thomas Cottam, to Eliza Price. Present address, Trafford, Dudley-street, Coogee.

Death 6366/1907 COTTAM THOMAS - SETH REBECCA - RANDWICK * 12 May 1907 * Age 71

Death 7312/1930 COTTAM ELIZA (-PRICE) 93 YRS RANDWICK RANDWICK * 26 May 1930

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Seth Cottam
Spouse's Name Rebecca Hardman
Event Date 27 Jul 1828
Event Place Manchester Collegiate Church, Lancashire
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Batch: M019890

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas born abt 1836 and family in 1841 ?

Thomas in 1851 ?

 

[emeltee]

I can find the following children with parents Seth and Rebecca

John 1829
Martha (Cotton) 1831
James 1834
In 1841
HO107/574/7/F58/p16
Stonehewer Street, Manchester
3 of the occupants of the house are
Seth Cottam 15
John Cottam 12
Martha Cottam 9

No definite find for James or Thomas in 1841, no baptism found for Thomas.

Deaths

Rebecca Cottam born 1795 buried 26 May 1839 Rusholme Road Cemetery, Chorlton upon Medlock Cause of death Asthma

Seth Cottam born 1794 buried 29 August 1841 Rusholme Road Cemetery, Chorlton upon Medlock Cause of death Asthma.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

I didn't see the family in 1841.

No arrival found so far for Thomas.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

I've checked the 1841 image again and it definitely gives the age for Seth as 15, occ Silk Thrower. Not sure if the age is a mistake and should read 45 perhaps. I can't see a baptism which would fit an age of 15(or thereabouts) in 1841

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

COTTAM, MARY ANN - PRICE
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 84

Don't know yet if this fits

COTTAM, ANN - PRICE
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 64

Last one does not fit but family may or may not be in 1861 with birth in 1858.

Marriages Sep 1853
BEELEY James Stockport 8a 119
COTTAM Thomas Stockport 8a 119
PRICE Mary Ann Stockport 8a 119
WESTON Fanny Stockport 8a 119

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Cotton Weaving Mill
residence: 1861 Great Bolton, Lancashire

Interesting name for that child.

I can find a Mary in 1861 but there is an older sister born 1854 which does not fit.

Looks like the family left England before 1861.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes.

NSW Birth COTTAM REBECCA H 1991/1860 THOMAS ELIZA - SYDNEY

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Thu 23 Feb 1860
IMMIGRANTS per FITZJAMES.—Notice is hereby given, that the undermentioned persons, for whom passages were provided to this colony in pursuance of deposits made under the Remittance Regulations, have arrived in the ship Fitzjames, and that they will be prepared to join their friends—the single females from the Depot, Hyde Park Barracks, on and after their arrival there; and the families and single men from the ship, forty-eight hours after their release from quarantine, of which due notlce will be given.
Name of Immigrant. | From what County selected.
etc etc
Cottam, Thomas -- Lancashire
Cottam, Eliza -- Lancashire
etc

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28628712

Passenger list

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5316&item=4_4796&ship=Fitzjames

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

No second reel to check names of parents etc...

Deposit Journal ?

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Dave there was a child with them.

COTTAM Marianne 2 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family
COTTAM Eliza 22 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family
COTTAM Thomas 23 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family

 

[gibbo]

Deposit Journal ?

Deposit journal index on ances. I dont have access to get any more info.

Thomas Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam dd mm year

Eliza Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam dd mm year

Mary Ann Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam

 

[gibbo]

Dave there was a child with them.

COTTAM Marianne 2 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family
COTTAM Eliza 22 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family
COTTAM Thomas 23 Fitzjames 1860 Sydney and family

Baptism: 25 Apr 1858 St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Cottam - [Child] of Thomas Cottam & Eliza
Abode: Bridge St. Manchester
Occupation: Paper ruler
Baptised by: T. M. Studholme
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1864, Page 195, Entry 461
Source: LDS Film 506449

 

[horse]

Deposit journal index on ances. I dont have access to get any more info.

Thomas Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam dd mm year

Eliza Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam dd mm year

Mary Ann Cottam
year Manchester, England name Cottam

Seth Cottam was the sponsor/depositor, date 7 March 1859.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Seth & a Ralph look to be half siblings, b. before the Rebecca Hardman marriage. A couple of trees have their mother as Mary Heaton.

Wigan, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1926
Seth Cottham
Date: 31 Jul 1814
Marriage Place: Wigan, All Saints, Lancs.
Spouse: Mary Heaton

So Mary must have d. before 1828..

Possible for Thomas and Ralph 1841
RD: Salford
Sub-RD: Greengate
Ref: Piece: 585; Book: 19; Folio: 27; Page: 46
Peter Jackson 25
Charles Alberts 4
Ralph Cottam 20 [Occ looks like Warper]
Thomas Cottam 5

Geoff

 

[horse]

Not sure when half bro. Seth arrived...

This death fits.

Seth Cottam
Place: New South Wales
Parents = Seth & Mary
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Newtomn, New South Wales
Registration Number: 10849

Geoff

 

[horse]

So here by 1852..

AMI:
Seth Cottam
Spouse = Hannah M Mckenzie
Registration Place: Sydeny [sic] NSW
Registration Year: 1852
Volume Number: V

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Ralph come out here as well.

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Tue 12 Jan 1858

MISCELLANEOUS
IMMIGRANTS PER PETER MAXWELL.- Notice
is hereby given, that the undermentioned persons
for whom passages were provided to this colony,
etc
Cottam, Ralph .......... Seth Cottam
Eliza ............ . Ditto
Eliza Ann. Ditto
Henry G. .. Ditto
Ralph............ Ditto;
-, William. .Ditto
Edward. . Ditto

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5316&item=4_4795&ship=Peter Maxwell

 

[gibbo]

Not sure when half bro. Seth arrived...

This death fits.

Seth Cottam
Place: New South Wales
Parents = Seth & Mary
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Newtomn, New South Wales
Registration Number: 10849

Geoff

Baptism: 17 Nov 1822 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Seth Cottam - 5 Son of Seth Cottam & Mary
Born: 29 Oct
Abode: Scholes
Occupation: Warper
Baptised by: at St. George's Chapel by the Revnd. Benn. Powell
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1825, Page 46, Entry 362
Source: LDS Film 1885677
Baptism: 17 Nov 1822 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England

Seth Cottam - 5th son of Seth Cottam & Mary
Born: 29 Oct 1822
Abode: Scholes
Occupation: Warper
Baptised by: Benjn. Powell Minister
Register: Baptisms 1814 - 1859, Page 8, Entry 62
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives