Thomas & Janet CAIRNS & family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I'd like a look up please in Scotland, possibly Midlothian, for the following CAIRNS family in 1851:

Thomas b. abt 1810 d. 1899
Janet (DRAPER) b. abt 1805 Bridge of Allan, Stirling ? d. 1896
Mary b. abt 1837 Stirling ? d. 1892
Margaret b. abt 1837 Stirling ? d. 1908
David b. abt 1840 Stirling ? d. 1912
Janet b. ? Stirling ? d. 1910
John b. abt 1843 Edinburgh, Midlothian d. ?
Catherine Alexandra b. abt 1849 Edinburgh, Midlothian d. 1928

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

deja vu m

Yes, we did try some time ago without any luck. It is claimed they arrived in Sydney in 1852 although I still can't find them in shipping records.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

They all came to Australia and all died in Queensland after 1892. It seems they are not listed under CAIRNS in the census and I can't find them in shipping records under any name.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Found this family under the spelling Cairens.

Civil pariish St. Ninians
County Sterling
Address Bandeath

Thomas Cairens age 30 occ ag lab
Janet Cairens age 30
Janet Cairens age 9
Mary Cairens age 2
Margaret Cairens age 8mths

Ages are a little bit out. Also I cant find this family in 1851.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

NSW Assisted Immigration Passenger List 1828-1896

Voyage Arrival Date 4 Jan 1852
Vessel Name William and Mary
Ortigin Location Stirling Stirlingshire

Thomas Carns age 40 farm labourer
Janet age 38
Mary age 16
Margaret age 14
David age 12
John age 9
Catherine age 3

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thank you very much. That's the family. The ages in the census may or may not be out since it seems no one yet has found the births or baptisms. One researcher has year and place of birth but nothing more, with this for Margaret: 1837 Saint Ninians, Stirling. No year of birth given for daughter Janet. Also no date of death in Scotland to explain the fact she is not of the shipping record. Yet, there is a marriage and a death in Queensland:

Death 1910/B12581 Aitken Janet - Thomas Cairnes Janet Draper

Death 1905/B5988 Sherrin Janet Cairns - George Aitken & Janet Cairns

Now I realise why Janet is not listed. She was already married.

William & Mary 1852 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2136, [4/4790] Page 125; Reel 2463, [4/4927]
AITKEN George 23 and wife
AITKEN Janet 19 and husband
AITKEN Margaret 25 and husband
AITKEN Thomas 26 and wife

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

George AITKEN Spouse: Janet CAIRNS
Marriage: 8 Jul 1851 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

This is interesting:
Thomas CAIRNS Spouse: Janet DRAPER
Marriage: 11 Nov 1837 Logie, Perth, Scotland


That is after the birth of daughters Janet and Mary. It seems catherine was born Born 1849 St Cuthberts Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian and with the marriage of Janet in the same parish I'd say that's a possible place for them in 1851 census.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Death # 1899/C03860 CAIRNS Thomas David CAIRNS Margaret - ** born Scotland aged 88 years

I would say this is Thomas' birth:

b. 9 Feb 1811 Newlands, Peebles, Scotland
Father: David CAIRNS Mother: Margaret WALKINGSHAW

and possibly (private IGI): m. 10 Jun 1798 Eddlestone, Peebles

I found a Margaret CAIRNS aged 60 in Peebles in 1841.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

This fits with the Margaret aged 60 in 1841:

Margaret WALKINGSHAW b. 3 May 1780 West Linton, Peebles
Father: Robert WALKINSHAW Mother Margaret JACKSON

Regards,

Dave