Thomas & Martha RICHARDSON

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Another look at this one.

Thomas RICHARDSON b. 1817 Shotwick, Cheshire

spouse Martha Anderson (nee YATES) b. abt 1826 Manchester

1871
Civil Parish: Windlesham
Town: Windlesham
County: Surrey
Registration District: Chertsey
Sub-RD: Chobham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Richardson Head 54 occ landowner 52 acres Shotwick, Cheshire
Martha A Richardson Wife 45 Manchester
Martha H Richardson Daughter 16 Bath
Mary A James Sister in law Widow 39 Manchester
Mary A James Niece 17 Liverpool
Emily M James Niece 11 Liverpool
Harriette A James Niece 8 Liverpool

Thomas died in 1885 Edmonton and Martha A. in 1910 Edmonton.

I'm missing them both in 1861 and 1881.

Searching for daughter Martha b. Bath will find her and siblings with a Governess and no parents in 1861.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Daughter Martha Helena Richardson married in 1873 to John Clement Ellison.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Julie. I have that marriage. There are several missing bits with this family so I decided to try and fill those relating to the parents first.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Still looking.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas is down as a Railway proprietor and Land owner.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

They maybe in Westminster in 1861 but I cant view the image.

Thomas Richardson born 1817 Cheshire/Martha A Richardson born 1826 Lancashire.

 

[juliejtp]

Here we go.

1861 - Civil parish Westminster St Margaret - RD Westminster - Sub RD St Margaret

Thomas Richardson lodger age 44 occ land proprietor born Shotwick
Martha A wife age 35 born Manchester

Class RG9
Piece 52
Folio 53
Page 26

I was either doing something wrong but this wasnt showing on my previous searches.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Still not finding them in 1881.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks for looking, Julie.

I can't find them on FS in 1881.

 

[DaveHam9]

Charles - HERE

Richardson was born at Capenhurst Hall in Cheshire in 1814. His father, Richard, died when he was six.

SHOTWICK, on the banks of the Dee, 6 miles N.W. from Chester, contains 19 houses, and 94 inhabitants. The church, dedicated to St. Michael, is a curacy, value 23/. 15*., in the patronage of the Dean and Chapter of Chester. Shotwick Hall is the seat of John Nevett Bennet, Esq.
In this parish are the following townships: —
Cappenhurst, or Capenhurst, 5 1/2 miles N. from Chester, contains 27 houses, and 161 inhabitants. Capenhurst Hall is the seat of Richard Richardson, ... was purchased of Lord Cholmondley in 1790 by Richard RICHARDSON, Esq.


The will was written on 9 September 1820 and proved on 1 June 1822.

name: Richard Richardson
gender: Male
burial date: 8 Feb 1822
burial place: Shotwick, Cheshire, England
death date:
death place:
age:
birth date: 1755
birthplace:
occupation:
race:
marital status:
spouse's name:
father's name:
father's birthplace:
mother's name:
mother's birthplace:
indexing project (batch) number: B05154-9
system origin: Part 1 - 1
source film number: 1751622
reference number: item 1 p 19

An error or the wrong Richard.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Familysearch have a Thomas Richardson christened 9 May 1817 - Shotwick Cheshire

Father Richard Richardson/Mother Dorothea Richardson

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, Thanks Julie.

It's the descendants of that Thomas that put the family in my tree.

County Derbyshire
Place Chesterfield
Church St Mary & All Saints
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 15 Dec 1802
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname RICHARDSON
GroomAge
GroomParish Beswick Chester
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Ann
BrideSurname BOWER
BrideAge
BrideParish This Parish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Joseph
WitnessOneSurname BOWER
WitnessTwoForename Ralph
WitnessTwoSurname RICHARDSON
Notes Licence
FileNumber 16287

Ann died 1803 and Richard married a sister Dorothea in 1810 although I can't find the marriage.

Dorothy BOWER c. 25 Oct 1782 Chesterfield, Derbyshire
- father =Joseph

If the info is correct and Richard died in 1820 then I can't find a burial record. I don't know if the one who died in 1822 is his father or not.

I have no baptism for the Richard who married the sisters.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Dorothea Richardson on the 1851 census.

Civil parish South Stoke - RD Bath - Sub RD Twerton

Dorothea Richardson widow age 67 occ gentlewoman born Chesterfield
Helena daughter age 22 u/m born Capenhurst
Plus 4 servants

Class H0107
Piece 1940
Folio 132
Page 17

I could'nt find a marriage between Thomas and Dorothea. I thought it was against the law to marry a deceased wifes sister.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

Well, I've not proved 100% they are sisters but...

Ann BOWER c. 28 May 1775 Chesterfield, Derby
- father = Joseph

Dorothy BOWER c. 25 Oct 1782 Chesterfield, Derby
- father = Joseph

Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Friday, July 28, 1854; Issue 2607.
DEATH
July 9, at Westfield-house, near Bath, Dorothea, widow of the late R. Richardson, Esq., of Capenhurst, Cheshire.


The Lancaster Gazette and General Advertiser, for Lancashire, Westmorland, &c. (Lancaster, England), Saturday, September 22, 1810; Issue 484.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Lately, Richard Richardson, Esq., of Capenhurst, to Miss D. Bower, daughter of Joseph Bower, Esq., of Castle Hill, both in Cheshire.

I'd say the law didn't matter when you are lord of the manor and your father is a deputy lieutenant of Cheshire.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Dorothea died in 1854, her probate was dated 1889

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

That probate took ages.

I have the baptism records of all her children.