Thomas MENTIPLAY and Margaret CARSTAIRS

[DaveHam9]

1841
Piece: 452 Place: Pittenween -Fife Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Pittenweem Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 12
Address: West Shore
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BOWMAN Isobell F 70 Widow Fife
MENTIPLY William M 30 Fisherman Fife
MENTIPLY Janet F 30 Fife
MENTIPLY Thomas M 5 Fife
MENTIPLY William M 3 Fife

1841
Piece: 438 Place: Kilrenny -Fife Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Kilrenny Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 21
Address: Cellardyke Main Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CARSTAIRS John M 30 Fisherman Fife
CARSTAIRS Agness F 23 Fife


Margaret CARSTAIRS b. 3 Sep 1844 Kilrenny, Fife
- parents John Carstairs & Agnes Ferguson


I'd like a look up please for Thomas and Margaret in 1851 and 1861. They married in Victoria in 1863.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
Piece: 452 Place: Pittenweem -Fife Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Pittenweem Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Pittenweem
Folio: 452 Page: 21 Schedule: 93
Address: Gaston's Close
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MENTIPLAY William Head M M 43 Fisherman Fife - Pittenweem
MENTIPLAY Thomas Son U M 16 Fisherman Fife - Pittenweem
MENTIPLAY William Son U M 15 Fisherman Fife - Pittenweem
Page: 452/22
MENTIPLAY Betsy Dau U F 13 Maker Of Fishing Nets Fife - Pittenweem
MENTIPLAY David Son - M 10 Fishermans Assistant Fife - Pittenweem

 

[DaveHam9]

Re: Thomas MENTIPLAY aand Margaret CARSTAIRS

This does not add up. Right name and age and place of birth for Margaret but wrong parents and siblings.

1851
Piece: 438 Place: Kilrenny -Fife Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Kilrenny Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kilrenny
Folio: 0 Page: 18 Schedule: 76
Address: Main Street Nth Side
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CARSTAIRS George Head M M 31 Fisherman Fife - Cellardyke
CARSTAIRS Euphemia Wife M F 30 Fife - Cellardyke
CARSTAIRS Euphemia Dau - F 9 Scholar Fife - Cellardyke
CARSTAIRS Margt Dau - F 6 Scholar Fife - Cellardyke
CARSTAIRS George Son - M 1 Fife - Cellardyke


Margaret Carstairs
birth:1 April 1845
christening:16 May 1845 KILRENNY,FIFE,SCOTLAND
George Carstairs & Euphemia Morris


2x Margaret - so where is the one born 1844 in 1851 and 1861?

 

[horse]

Re: Thomas MENTIPLAY aand Margaret CARSTAIRS

2x Margaret - so where is the one born 1844 in 1851 and 1861?

Hi Dave

I presume you mean the one with parents John = Agnes?

1851
Civil Parish: Kilrenny
Town: Cellardyke
County: Fife
Address: 11 House
ED: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_90; Page: 9; Line: 10

John Carstairs 41 [b. Cellardyke, fisherman]
Agnes Carstairs 32 [b. Pitterween]
John Carstairs 9
Margaret Carstairs 6
William Carstairs 4
James Carstairs 2
Agnes Carstairs 1
[Offspring all b. Cellardyke]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Geoff.

FreeCEN says it has 100% coverage of Fife in 1851 but I only found the other family.

A tree says Thomas and Margaret married in Victoria in 1863. One of them was still in Fife in 1861. Now I can't find the tree.

 

[horse]

I only found 2/3 possibilities with her working as a servant, but nothing conclusive, will have another look.

 

[DaveHam9]

I found the right tree.

It has Thomas arriving in 1853 and Margaret in Dysart, Fife in 1861.

 

[horse]

Are you ok with that 1861 census in Dysart? Her parents are George and Sophia in that one...

 

[DaveHam9]

:2fun:

Of course the tree is wrong again. It looks as though no arrival has been found for Margaret so they have her still in Fife.

 

[horse]

Oh! There are 2 in Dysart, this may be her...

Civil Parish: Cupar
Town: Cupar
County: Fife
Address: 13 Bonnygate
ED: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_54

James Davidson 39
Margaret Davidson 38
James Davidson 12
Helen Davidson 12
David Davidson 10
Thomas Davidson 8
Barbara Davidson 4
John Davidson 2
Margt Carstairs 15 [Anstruther, Fife]
David Pitcaithly 9 Mo

 

[horse]

There isn't one that leaps out

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Does that pob fit? That place is a new one on me and I thought I knew Fife after spending time there around Dunfermline and Torryburn.

Anstruther - Fish and Chip Shop of the year. :biggrin:

Ok.

1.1 miles NE NO576048 Kilrenny, Fife which encompasses the area containing:
0.5 miles ENE NO573037 Cellardyke

 

[horse]

Anstruther - Fish and Chip Shop of the year. :biggrin:

We like that...

If she was b. Cellardyke, that is very close to Anstruther, Dysart is near Kirkaldy...

 

[horse]

The 1861 Dysart census more or less has to be correct, it has her birthplace right...

Just need to find her arrival

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Geoff.

And the arrival of Thomas.

 

[horse]

This looks like his bro. David, there is also a William...

David Mentiplay
Spouse: Isabella Falconer
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1861
Registration number: 3151

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The name Isabella runs in the family.

 

[horse]

I'll check the arrivals later, Dave... some portions of the site are down for maintenance still..

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

 

[DaveHam9]

What to believe? :biggrin: The tree, the census or the parents on the death reg. ???

Deaths in Victoria:

7541/1926 MENTIPLAY Thos 91 - MENTIPLAY Wm - ANDERSON Elizth - Somervle

16965/1935 MENTIPLAY Margt 90 - CARSTAIRS Jno - MURRAY Mary - Somerville


Is it William & Janet UNKNOWN or William & Elizabeth ANDERSON ?

Is it John & Agnes FERGUSON or John & Mary MURRAY ?