Thomas Newington NEWBERY

[DaveHam9]

Susanna Pennell c. 18 Oct 1795 Stoke Damerel, Devon
- parents Michael Pennell & Jane

Married May 18 1813
Richd. Motz - Ralf Bachr. [Hamlet of Ratcliff]
Susannah Pennel of same Spinster
Banns
2 1
9 2
16 3

Richard Michael James Motz
baptism/christening date: 4 Nov 1827 SAINT NICHOLAS DEPTFORD
Richard John Motz & Susannah

I have no death for Richard senior or junior.

1841
HO107 Piece 1086 Book/Folio 6/42 Page 27
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Municipal Borough: Southwark
County: Surrey
Registration District: St George the Martyr Southwark
Address: Gray Street, St George The Martyr, London Road, Southwark
NEWBERY, Thomas 55 Labourer
NEWBERY, Susan 45
NEWBERY, Martha 10
BARKWITH, James 60 Labourer Ireland
MOTTS, Richd 14
HILLARY, John 35 Labourer
HILLARY, Susannah 35
HILLARY, Clara 15
HILLARY, Sarah 10
None born in county

I have no death for Susanna.

Deaths Mar Qtr 1852
NEWBERRY Thomas Newton St Geo South 1d 126

Any probate or burial details for Thomas?

I'd like a look up please for the family in 1851.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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1851

Civil Parish: Southwark St George
County: Surrey
RD: St George Southwark
Sub-RD: London Road
ED: 14; Piece: 1565; Folio: 390; Page: 5

Thomas Newbury 64 b. Hampton Ct., Surrey. Can't read Occ.]
Susannah Newbury 55 Wife [b. Gosport]
Richard Mass 23 S-in-L [b. Deptford. Waterman]
Phillip Grady 10 [b. N]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Coal and corn merchant

So many of the family names connected with Newbery appear with odd variations.

MOTZ = Moss = Mass

Not sure if we are doing 'P' for Pennell or 'M' for Motz or 'N' for Newbery.

Apart from this I have nothing on Richard senior:

Page 50
MARRIAGES Solemnized in the Parish of St Dunstan Stepney in the County of Middlesex in the Year 1813
No. 148
Richard Motz of this Parish and Hamlet of Ratcliff Bachelor
Susannah Pennell of this parish and same Hamlet Spinster
were married in this Church by Banns this Eightenth Day of May 1813
By me Charles Henrick ? Presil ? Mill ? Curate
Both signed (R. John Motz)
Witnesses: Thomas Burch, Charlotte Pennell

 

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Just in case you haven't seen this...

Thomas Newington Newbery
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Age: 55
Spouse: Susanna Fruit Motz
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1845
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father: John Newbery
Spouse Father: Michael Motz
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

 

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Just in case you haven't seen this...

Thomas Newington Newbery
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Age: 55
Spouse: Susanna Fruit Motz
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1845
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father: John Newbery
Spouse Father: Michael Motz
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

Banns 4y earlier

Thomas Newington Newbery
Spouse: Susannah Motz
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 7 Nov 1841
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

 

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Yet another variant

Richard Maly
Spouse: Susannah Pennell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 May 1813
Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Yes. I had that one with the middle name Fruit.

Sometimes you can rule a Newbery marriage in or out by looking to see if there is a signature or an x. Lots of them with two or three marriages.

I will sleep on it. Catch you later.

Dave

 

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Ok, Dave...

 

[DaveHam9]

That's an error with father as Michael Motz because Susanna was a widow and her father is Michael Pennell. Thomas died 1852 so I don't know if she remarried or not. I have no death.