Thomas Quinn: Mining accident Wigan 1890s

[HT100]

Hello all
I'm trying to find out if there was a mining accident in or near Wigan in the late 1890s in which a Thomas Quinn died.

My great grandfather married my great grandmother (Margaret Wilcox) in 1896 and she is listed as a widow and a patient in a hospital in 1901. So he must have died between those dates.
Thomas Quinn was a miner and according to something my mother wrote he died in a mining accident in which at least 10 others died, but I can't find records of this accident on various mining websites.
I think Thomas and Margaret lived in Swann Street, Wigan.

Any ideas?
Helen

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Helen,

That death seems to fit but I've looked at the database of mining accidents and the coal mining accidents and I can't find one that fits anywhere near Wigan.

Regards,

Dave

 

[duckweed]

I've looked through the casualty lists and can't find anyone called Thomas Quinn mentioned. I think it might be better to establish when he died and then get his death certificate.

I looked up all the records in case he had traveled away but couldn't find it either.

The only other suggestion is if anyone has access to the newspapers of the day to see if his name is listed in an inquest.

 

[ptjw7]

Tried the Guardian and The Times archives but nothing for 10 deaths at Wigan. Several later with many more deaths.

Peter

 

[HT100]

Peter, thanks for looking.
Were the later incidents with more deaths after 1901?

The only thing I have to go on is a piece of writing my Mum did about her father (Thomas Quinn's son Frank) which talked of the day the miners didn't come home and all the women in the street sobbing and Frank running up to his mother

I assumed it was based on what Frank had told her, but who know how these stories get changed over the years...
Hmmm

 

[ptjw7]

Yes, 1908 had 72 deaths.

Peter

There was an article on the web(cant find it now) which had a picture of women waiting for news it said 1898 but no other information as to the accident!

 

[leefer]

Was there any other mines ieTin,Lead etc in the area?

http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/pits/Wigan/Wigan-2B.htm#top

The lik above maybe worth an email.....or a phone call even...number on the bottom of page.

Good luck with your research..Lee

 

[duckweed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY1zNyg99ic

This was a major disaster in 1908.

 

[duckweed]

http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html

I didn't find a Thomas Quinn but you might like to search the site yourself.

 

[leefer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY1zNyg99ic

This was a major disaster in 1908.

Enjoyed watching that.

 

[gibbo]

Hi Helen,

Possible death index for your Thomas? IF it is him a death cert. should give cause of death.

Deaths Sep quarter 1897

Quinn Thomas 29 Wigan vol 8c page 24

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If the below is him hopefully the place of death might help.

Surname.. Quinn
Forename .. Thomas
Age .. 29 years
Place of death .. 15 Top Croft, Hallgate
Date and Year .. 09-Aug 1897
Grave ... D 533
Religion ... R C

http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/c...n&sort=0&id=51838&opt=cemetery&sf=0&forename=

 

[joaning]

Thanks dw, a very interesting film.

 

[HT100]

Thank you all for help so far.

I have found similar sources but nothing seems to tie in.
I'm pretty sure I've found my great grandmother Margaret Wilcox (Quinn) widowed by 1901 in the census, and she marries a Thomas Jarvis in 1903 so the 1908 disaster can't be when Thomas Quinn died (unless he did a runner and she's a bigamist - nothing would surprise me).

If Margaret and Thomas married in 1986 and she was a widow by 1901 then any disaster, if there is one, would be between those years.
It's looking like maybe this wasn't how he died?

There is a Thomas Quinn death in Lancs in 1897.
If I bought the death cert would it say if he'd died in a mining accident and would Margaret be the one who registered the death if he is the correct Thomas Quinn??

 

[HT100]

Gibbo, the place of death and religion fit
Hallgate is where the cotton workers and miners lived
And we have found possible census records for Thomas Quinn living in Top Croft.
But this would mean he wasn't living with Margaret and their son Frank even though they married in 1896?
Or does this just mean that his parents or siblings registered his death?

 

[HT100]

Have just found this info on Hallgate
http://www.wiganman.co.uk/Content/history/Hallgate_1849.html
Very interesting.

Top Croft and Bottom Croft were fields in Hallgate.
Swan Street (where I know Margaret lived at some point is quite close).
Maybe they moved to Top Croft when they married...

Looks like I will have to buy death cert if I want to find out

 

[gibbo]

I think the death cert. will give you some answers.

Like Peter, i to checked the newspapers and couldnt find anything.