Thomas WILLIAMS

[DaveHam9]

1871 Wales
RG10 Piece 5515 Folio 38 Page 10
Civil Parish: Pembroke St Mary
Eccl. parish: St Mary
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub-RD: Pembroke
ED: 3
No of Schedule: 59
Address: Green
John Brittle Head Mar 58 Shoe Maker Pembrokeshire
Ann Brittle Wife Mar 40 Pembrokeshire
James Brittle Son Unm 24 Labourer Pembrokeshire
Thomas Williams Boarder Widower 64 Farm Servant Carmarthenshire

Looking for Thomas in 1881 and his death.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Any more info for this one, Dave.. Wife, offspring? I notice tags have Price, Willy..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

"Thomas William, farmers son, of Kiffig Parish, married Esther Willy, spinster of Kiffig Parish, in Kiffig Church, Carmarthenshire on 17 April 1824. Both signed their names in the presence of Jonathon Morgan and William Williams."

1851 Wales
HO107 Piece 2476 Folio 583 Page 13
Civil Parish: Monkton
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub-RD: Tenby
ED: 2d
No of Schedule: 49
Address: -
Thomas Williams Head Mar 45 Inn Keeper Kiffick
Hester Williams Wife Mar 52 Kiffick
George Williams Son 13 Monkton
Robert Barnet Son Mar 27 Carpenter Monkton ?
Elizabeth Barnet Wife/ Dau Mar 24 Monkton
Elizabeth Barnet Dau 3

1861 Wales
RG9 Piece 4158 Folio 68 Page 17
Civil Parish: Monkton
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub-RD: Pembroke
ED: 23
No of Schedule: 70
Address: Orielton Lodge, Crickmarron
Thomas Williams Head Mar 56 Ag Lab Kiffick Carmarthenshire
Hester Williams Wife Mar 60 Kiffick Carmarthenshire
George Williams Son Unm 22 Mason Monkton Pembrokeshire
No of Schedule: 71
Robert Barnet Head Mar 41 Wheelwright Rhoscrowther Pembrokeshire
Elizabeth Barnet Wife Mar 35 Monkton
+ family

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Mar 1862 WILLIAMS Esther [65] Pembroke 11a 491

Marriages Sep 1847 Pembroke 26 845
BARNETT Robert & WILLIAMS Elizabeth

It's possible that may be the wrong Thomas in 1871 ?? Perhaps expect to see him still with his married daughter Elizabeth ?

Dave

 

[horse]

Deaths Mar 1862 WILLIAMS Esther [65] Pembroke 11a 491

Marriages Sep 1847 Pembroke 26 845
BARNETT Robert & WILLIAMS Elizabeth

It's possible that may be the wrong Thomas in 1871 ?? Perhaps expect to see him still with his married daughter Elizabeth ?

He's not with Elizabeth in 1871..

Family Search.

Geoff

EDIT: Not with them in 1881 either..

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Son George ended up in NSW.

Assisted 'Hereford' 1878 Sydney Reels 2141, 2489
WILLIAMS George 38 and family
WILLIAMS Emma 30 ?
Ann 13
Elizabeth 11
Sarah J 8
George 6
H Grace inft Died on voyage (dv)

Arrived 6 Dec 1878 - Reel 2489
George 38 Mason Pembroke B. Dead Wes Both None Good None
Emma 30 - Pembroke Stephen Price Pembroke Wes Both None

Both dead.

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Jun Qtr 1875
Williams Thomas 66 Haverfordwest 11a 562
Deaths Sep Qtr 1875
WILLIAMS Thomas 68 Cardigan 11b 6a
Deaths Jun Qtr 1876
WILLIAMS Thomas 67 Haverfordwest 11a 534

 

[DaveHam9]

Pembrokeshire Parish records on FS
Several burials but no age that fits within 5 years.

 

[horse]

There are trees but Williams appears to be the stumbling block, they have some records, so many gaps

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

This fits.

Esther Williams
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 07 Mar 1862
Event Place: Monkton, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Age: 65
Birth Year (Estimated): 1797

 

[horse]

This fits.

Esther Williams
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 07 Mar 1862
Event Place: Monkton, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Age: 65
Birth Year (Estimated): 1797

Yep, also probably no reason to suspect Thomas was elsewhwere when he died, unless with a relative?

Geoff

 

[horse]

So Thomas could have d. 1861-1878?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Not many children.

The following children were baptised in Kiffig Church
David 27 Jun 1824 Parkcwm, Kiffig * Not with family in 1851 but I've not traced him.
Elizabeth 15 Feb 1826 Parkcwm, Kiffig
Sarah 27 Dec 1829 Amroth Parish * Not with family in 1841

And George who left in 1878.

 

[DaveHam9]

So Thomas could have d. 1861-1878?

Geoff

If the wrong one in 1871.

 

[DaveHam9]

WILLIAMS, THOMAS 57
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 11A Page 635

Thomas Williams
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 04 Jan 1865
Event Place: Pembroke Dock, St John, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Age: 57
Birth Year (Estimated): 1808

 

[horse]

WILLIAMS, THOMAS 57
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 11A Page 635

Has to be a consideration.. Just checking those early 1860's.. Those x2 in Q1 1861 can be discounted..

Geoff

 

[horse]

WILLIAMS, THOMAS 57
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 11A Page 635

Thomas Williams
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 04 Jan 1865
Event Place: Pembroke Dock, St John, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Age: 57

Same RD as Esther, not sure whether we should expect them to be buried in same place?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, if that one in 1871 is the wrong one then I can't find him in 1881 or find a death that fits to rule him out.

 

[horse]

Q4 !861 11a, 40 is discounted, age = 87

Geoff