THOMPSON Horace Watson & Olive May KILFEDER

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I'm looking for the reg# of the following marriages in Victoria:

THOMPSON Horace Watson & Olive May KILFEDER 1924 Bendigo

SOMERVILLE Sidney Albt & Olive May KILFEDER 1936

Thanks.

Dave

 

[oznannie]

Quick question Dave, have you Olive May in the census records in Anx?
1919 & 1924?
Ozn

 

[DaveHam9]

Only these two years before first marriage, Ozn.

1919 & 1924 VIC Electoral Roll - Bendigo - Sutton
KILFEDER Olive May, 354 Barnard st., Bendigo, home duties

And these after 2nd marriage so 2nd marriage using maiden name.

1937 VIC Electoral Roll - Bendigo - Bendigo
SOMERVILLE Olive May, 100 Garsed st., clerk

1943 VIC Electoral Roll - Fawkner - South Yarra
SOMERVILLE Olive May, 57 Adams st., clerk

1949 & 1954 VIC Electoral Roll - Melbourne Ports - Albert Park
SOMERVILLE Olive May, No. 32, 67 Queen's rd., S.C.3, clerk


The death reg is quite clear:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Olive May Somerville
Death Place: Want, Victoria = Wantirna
Age: 86
Father's name: John C Kilfeder
Mother's name: Bertha Emily
Registration Year: 1983
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 28611

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

There is a Horace Walton Thompson thus:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Horace Walton Thompson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1924
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne Ports
Subdistrict: Port Melbourne
[Occ: Warehouse Sales, with a George Walton Thompson, Lydia Thompson and Walter Franklyn Thompson]

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Horace Walton Thompson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Henty
Subdistrict: Gardiner
[46 Milton Parade. Occ: Manufacturer, with an Alice Elaine Thompson]

There is also this...

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Horace Watson Thompson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Bendigo
Subdistrict: Wedderburn
[High St. Occ: Engineer, appears to be on his own.]

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Horace Watson Thompson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Victoria
District: Echuca
Subdistrict: Shepparton
[Engineer, still on his own]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Sidney Albert Somerville
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Subdistrict: Melbourne East
[Occ: Pastry cook, living at Evelyn St. There is also an Olivia May Somerville living at Albert St. - Perhaps one address is the business]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Sidney Albt Somerville
Death Place: East Melbourne, Victoria
Age: 44
Father's Name: Chas Edwd Somerville
Mother's Name: Cath Braybrook
Registration Year: 1936
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 2534
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Sidney Albert Somerville
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Subdistrict: Melbourne East
[Occ: Pastry cook, living at Evelyn St. There is also an Olivia May Somerville living at Albert St. - Perhaps one address is the business]

Geoff

Thanks Geoff.

The middle name is Watson.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 18 June 1930 p.10
DIVORCE SUIT.
MELBOURNE, Tuesday.
Before the Chief Justice and a jury of six in the First Civil Court to-day the hearing was begun of a divorce petition by Horace Watson Thompson, of Wedderburn ...
... The marriage took place at Bendigo on October 18, 1924. ...

Recorder (Port Pirie, SA : 1919 - 1954) - Friday 27 June 1930 p.
Alleged Impropriety.
HUSBAND LOSES VERDICT.
MELBOURNE. Thursday,
The case in which Horace Thompson, of Wedderburn, claimed divorce from Olive Thompson, and £3,000 damages from Dr. Brian Woods, of Wedderburn, on the ground of impropriety, was concluded today. The jury, by a 5 to 1 majority, returned a verdict in favor of the wife and Dr Woods.

Perhaps Sidney was previously married. I mean the 1936 may not have been his first and that Olivia May may not be Olive May, or may be.

The first marriage did take place but I can't explain why Olive used her maiden name for the 2nd.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

We looked at this previously but I'm still trying to find the reg# for the two marriages.

 

[horse]

Yep, the second 2 have the middle name Watson.

I remember this from earlier, I thought we found a marriage for Horace/Olive but not on the index ? I remember the divorce citing the doctor, but I don't think we found the full outcome, as I recall.

Sidney also looks to have died in 1936.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

We know the divorce was unsuccessful so we are left in the air I suppose. If that is Olive in the E/R with Sidney claiming to be married then did she marry using her maiden name and pretending to be a spinster or is there no 2nd marriage?

I can't search on fiche at the library past 1921 so I started this topic hoping some site had records past that date.


The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Saturday 22 November 1924 p.17
MARRIAGES
THOMPSON - KILFEDER.-On the 18th October at All Saints' pro-Cathedral, Bendigo, by the Very Rev. Dean Percival, Horace Watson, youngest son of Mrs. E. Thompson and the late Mr. G. Thompson, Merbein, to Olive, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. C. Kilfeder, Monien, Barnard street, Bendigo.

 

[horse]

I'm still looking... but looks like Sidney was b. NSW...

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Sydney A Somerville
Birth Date: 1893
Father's Name: Charles Somerville
Mother's Name: Catherine J
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Orange, New South Wales
Registration number: 27605

 

[horse]

Have you got access to the National Library?

http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/1211

 

[DaveHam9]

Have you got access to the National Library?

http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/1211

:2fun: Yes :2fun:

I didn't know such a CD existed and that NLA had access via eResources.

Thanks, Geoff.

It has an icon of a building = you must be within the NLA to access the CD.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Saturday 22 November 1924 p.17
MARRIAGES
THOMPSON - KILFEDER.-On the 18th October at All Saints' pro-Cathedral, Bendigo, by the Very Rev. Dean Percival, Horace Watson, youngest son of Mrs. E. Thompson and the late Mr. G. Thompson, Merbein, to Olive, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. C. Kilfeder, Monien, Barnard street, Bendigo.

Can anyone find a site that has Victorian marriage records beyond 1921?

I looked again at the State Library yesterday and the fiche only go to 1921.

 

[Moriac]

Horace watson Thompson was the partner of my grandmother muriel. My father mel offspring of her first husband took both names and formed the gray-thompson that muriel used as well. I have his war medals and my son has the gold watch but we have little of the story. i gather the man who later became our primeminister for years sat on the bench I'm not sure if it was over the accidental killing of another family member or Horaces divorce proceedings but she had a hatred for sir robert menzies. I wondered if there are any living relatives from the Thompson clan in violetown victoria or am i the last to carry a remnant of the name of this wonderful man who everyone who knew him speaks kindly.
mel gray-thompson

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.


Thanks for the info. I'll add it to that branch of my tree. Kilfeder is not a direct line. Connected by Mellefont family from Kinsale/Cork.

Dave