Can I just say this is the best team of historians I have ever known. Just in case you don't realise how good you are. Sheffield University had been trying to find out about a son of a Steel magnate for 4 years. I put the query to the forum and you found all the information and more in less than 2 hours. I have yet to find a query you can't find some useful info for. People think I am amazing all the things I know. I keep saying to them it is not what you know but who you know. So come on everybody take a bow.