Trees on Ancestry?

[ptjw7]

I don't know if its just my family tree but the links on Ancestry don't tally from both sides of a marriage.
One I have now shows 10 trees for the woman and none for the man but the man shows as the woman's husband on the 10 trees
How this occurs I just don't understand - doing my head in :2fun:

Peter

 

[p.risboy]

Peter.......when you say links, do you mean the 'hints' on Ancestree.

I gave up on those years ago, and with 8000 or so, across 3 trees, I won't have the time to delete them all.:2fun:

 

[ptjw7]

No I mean the links they offer to peoples trees - how they can be so onesided:2fun:
Just not making sense.

Peter

 

[p.risboy]

No I mean the links they offer to peoples trees - how they can be so onesided:2fun:
Just not making sense.

Peter

Oh yes, the links.........just as bad as the hints.:2fun:

Must be a political mistake......to the left....or to the right. No middle ground to speak of.:2fun:

 

[thecelticbard]

The links I have with the "Evans/Davies" syndrome are totally useless. Most of them were born in a variety of other counties of Wales, and all married to people with different names to my ancestors. The mind boggles as to how they can be classed as a link.

 

[benny1982]

I never take any notice of the hints or links on Anc. Waste of time. Pretty much like many Anc trees which are hugely fictional. It does get annoying when a potential mutual ancestor on one Anc tree is said to have been born in 1710 in Suffolk yet baptised 300 miles away in Kendal, Cumbria.

 

[ptjw7]

I don't think I have explained it right - what I am referring to is the number of links to family trees for both parties in a marriage.
One link says 5 trees and the other 10
When you check the 10 trees they all have the same 2 people as being married so why doesn't the other have 5 trees
Or am I being to simplistic!

Peter

 

[p.risboy]

It may come down to the other 5 tree owners frustration at finding the right people or they lost interest, or run out of cash.
A check as to when these 5 tree owners were last online, might give a clue.

I must say, if I was starting a tree today, It would be far easier with the amount of resources that are online now.


Steve.

 

[Ellie7]

"all Content is owned, licensed to and/or copyrighted by Ancestry".

That is any record you put on your tree on Ancestry

Have I got this right ?

Ellie

 

[p.risboy]

"all Content is owned, licensed to and/or copyrighted by Ancestry".

That is any record you put on your tree on Ancestry

Have I got this right ?

Ellie

I'll ask this question on their FB page and see what the reply is.


Your web site claims that ......"all Content is owned, licensed to and/or copyrighted by Ancestry"............does that include any or all content, of photo's, records and parish records etc. that are not found on your web site, but entered on my family tree... Do I not own my own records now, or do they become yours, and copyrighted.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Well, here's the reply......I was directed to terms and conditions A s follows..

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If you can make sense of it, let me know.:2fun:

I replied to ask, can you give me a simple YES or a NO. I await the reply.


Steve.

 

[Guy]

I'll ask this question on their FB page and see what the reply is.


Your web site claims that ......"all Content is owned, licensed to and/or copyrighted by Ancestry"............does that include any or all content, of photo's, records and parish records etc. that are not found on your web site, but entered on my family tree... Do I not own my own records now, or do they become yours, and copyrighted.


Steve.

The terms and conditions show you the answer is very simple.

You own your own records.

At the same time by uploading the information to an Ancestry site you have licensed them to use that information in anyway they choose.

Or to put it another way, you own the records but you allow them to use them for as long as they want in any format they want forever.

Cheers
[FONT=&quot]Guy[/FONT]

 

[p.risboy]

Thanks Guy.....I sort of worked that out....ish. But would that include all content that's added.....including any images/photo's, which are strictly not records.

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

I just can't get a simple Yes or No, from Ancestree........and they keep referring back to T&C. I guess from a 'legal' standpoint they have to do it, but I'm not impressed.

Oh well.....just shows them to be money making company, over customer and product service.

The site still has errors, after the last major 'upgrade'. They need some new technical support staff to sort it out, as the lot they have at the moment don't seem up to the task.

Steve.