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Trying to trace Haydon / Hayden / Heyden roots in Cornwall / Devon

nedemit

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Hi

I have hit a wall trying to trace my ancestors back in the UK.

My surname is EDEN but it seems that around the time my great great great grandfather sailed to Australia (in 1865) the name has morphed into EDEN from what was originally HAYDON (or some variant of).

What I have so found via FreeCEN and FreeBMD and ordering cerificates is:

My great great great grandfather, John HAYDON (spelling from 1851 census) was born around 1843 (though I can't find his BMD index) in Redruth, CORNWALL and married Caroline THOMAS (as John EADEN) on 5 MAR 1864 in Illogan, CORNWALL.

His parents were John HEYDEN (1841 census) / HAYDON (1851 census) / HAYDEN (1861 census) and Elizabeth MERRETT who were married (as HAYDEN) on 28 NOV 1837 in Redruth, CORNWALL.

All the census returns (except 1841) place John Sr's birthplace as Devonport, DEVON (being born around 1811) and his marriage certificate lists his father as WILLIAM.

Both John Sr and William's professions are listed as Shoe / bootmaker.

This is where my trail runs dry (census and BMD records not really going back any further), so I am hoping that there is someone that may have some more information that can help me out. The fact the spelling seems very inconsistent makes it that little more difficult obviously.

Even John Sr and Elizabeth's first son William Henry (born 7 FEB 1840) had his birth registered with the spelling EADEN and his marriage (to Harriet GRIBBLE in the final quarter of 1862) registered with the spelling of HEDON.

Makes it very confusing .....

Thanks to anyone that can offer any assistance or direct me to somewhere where I might be able to find some more details.

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Tim
 

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Hello Tim,

welcome to FHUK.


I have a GRIBBLE family from Redruth in my tree but not a Harriet.

I wish you luck.

I'll see if I can find anything to help you.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hi Tim

You need more than luck, a miracle may help you.>:D

Have you tried contacting CORNWALL ONLINE PARISH CLERKS
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Structure/resources.phphttp://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/


As this article wasn't text corrected it may be new to you.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889-1931) Friday 18 August 1922 p 12 Article
PERSONAL
The death of Mr. John Eden, which took place at his residence, Second-avenue,
East Adelaide, came as a shock to his many friends. Born at Redruth, Cornwall,
in 1843, he came to Australia, at the age of 22, bringing his wife with him. He
went first to Port Clinton. When the Moonta Mines opened he sought employ
ment there. He also spent some time in New Zealand, and at Ballarat when the
gold rush started. He took much interest in mining, and only recently was a pro
minent member of a syndicate to reopen the old Cunliffe mine, near Moonta. He
left mining and began farming at Agery,where he was a hard and persevering
worker, and was rewarded with success. In 1907 he retired, leaving the farm home
stead to his two sons, one of whom (Mr. Alfred Eden) died ten years ago. He was
a staunch Metbodist all his life, and in his younger days took an active part in
church work. He will be missed by a wide circle of friends, who admired his
manly and upright ways. Besides a widow he leaves one son (Mr. J. Eden, Toorak),
and four daughters (Mrs. Wellington, Mrs. E. D. Senior, and the Misses E. and L.
Eden).

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The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889-1931) Thursday 5 March 1914 p 14 Family Notices
GOLDEN WEDDINGS.
EDEN-THOMAS.-On the 5th March, 1864, at the Illogan English Church, by the Rev. Wulff, John, second son of the late John Eden, Esq., Redruth, to Carolina, only daughter of the late Stephen Thomas, Esq., Illogan. Present address Eden Vale, Second-avenue, St. Peters.

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Hello Tim,

I have a total of 74 in my tree starting with the marriage on 13 May 1713 in Redruth of George GRIBBLE to Elizabeth JOHN. But, no sign of a Harriet.

I'll keep looking for you.

Regards,

Dave
 

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Hi Tim
Nice to "meet "you from Adelaide
from oznannie in the Wild very hot West..

Good luck with your family search.
Do you have Caroline Thomas with her family in 1861 census?
I'm guessing you do.

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nedemit

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Hello Tim,

I have a total of 74 in my tree starting with the marriage on 13 May 1713 in Redruth of George GRIBBLE to Elizabeth JOHN. But, no sign of a Harriet.

I'll keep looking for you.

Regards,

Dave
Thanks Dave.

I think this is the Gribble family in question from what I can work out...

Piece: RG9/1579 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Redruth Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 105 Page: 10 Schedule: 51
Address: West End
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born
GRIBBLE John Head M M 56 Miner (Copper)* Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Mary Wife M F 50 Green Grocer* Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Joseph Son U M 20 Copper Miner* Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Harriet Dau U F 18 Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Benjamin Son U M 16 Mason (Apprentice)* Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Charles Son U M 14 Mason (Apprentice)* Cornwall - Redruth
GRIBBLE Catharine Dau U F 6 Scholar* Cornwall - Redruth
GEORGE Mary Mtrlaw W F 78 Widow Of Miner* Cornwall - Flushing
WILLIAMS Johanna Boardr W F 72 Widow Of Miner* Cornwall - Kenwyn

Incidently, William Henry's younger sister Emily married Joseph GRIBBLE as far as I can work out. There was also a Samuel GRIBBLE (listed as grandson) down as informant on John Sr's death certificate.

Tim
 

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Hi Tim

You need more than luck, a miracle may help you.>:D

Have you tried contacting CORNWALL ONLINE PARISH CLERKS
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Structure/resources.phphttp://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/
Thanks cp.

I tried the Cornwall OPC a while back regarding John Jr's birth certificate but they couldnt help me as they did not have access to the date range in question.

I received an answer from a Stoke Damerel (Devonport) lookup request for 'Heydon" baptisms with:

Fiche number: MF307
Page: 36 - this is the number of pages from the beginning of the
fiche
Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1809
Surname: Heydon
Forename(s): William
Relationship: Son
Father: William
Mother: Elizabeth
Notes: b. 13 Feb 1809

Could be a brother of John Sr? No idea however how I can find out if this is the case or not not???

As for the newspaper articles, I had found those thanks.

Tim
 

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Hi Tim,welcome and an interesting family.

And its amazing how many names changed because in old times people would write how they heard a name......Haydon spoken by a cornishmen would probably sound like ADEN/EDEN.


Anyway good luck with your research....Lee
 

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