TUBMAN family

[DaveHam9]

Arrived 13 Jan 1855 - As inspected 15 Jan 1855 - Reel 2468
TUBMAN Henry 32 Policeman Rossorry ? Fermanagh Henry & Rebecca ? living at Rossorry ? Methodist Both do
TUBMAN Maria 26 - Louth Co Louth Henry & Mary Cranston ? father dead mother at Pomeroy, Tyrone C.E. do do

 

[DaveHam9]

Error with mother's name in death reg.

NSW Death 62/1865 TUBMAN MARIA A - HENRY - MARIA A - SYDNEY * 15 Jan

NSW Death 3317/1900 TUBMAN HENRY - HENRY - MARGARET - ST LEONARDS * 17 Mar

 

[emeltee]

Rossorry is a parish in County Fermanagh, about 8 miles west of Enniskillen.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.


Births Dec Qtr 1846 TUBMAN William Henry - St Geo East 2 119 mmn CRANSTON

The vessel carried a bunch of Policemen from Ireland. Methodist on shipping record and Methodist burial.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 19 Mar 1900 p.10
Funerals.
TUBMAN.-The Friends of the late Mr. HENRY TUBMAN, ex-Sergeant of Police, are kindly invited to attend his Funeral ; to move from Avoca, 103 Arthur-street, North Sydney, THIS MONDAY, at 3 o'clock, for the Gore Hill Cemetery.
Mrs. P. KIRBY and SON, Undertakers, 7 Elizabeth-st., and 113 Miller-st., N. Syd.

Gore Hill
Tubman. Henry - Methodist 1 A 148 77 19/03/1900 North Sydney.

 

[Elwyn]

Marriage here for Henry Tubman (policeman) to Mary McKee in 1848, in Co Down. Don’t see a marriage to a Mary Cranston in Ireland,

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1848/09343/5382897.pdf


Griffiths Valuation of 1862 lists Henry Tubman (the father) in Clonbunniagh townland, parish of Ossory. He had a 20 acre farm there. Father probably died in 1865 aged 86, regd Enniskillen. Rebecca probably died 1867 aged 80, regd Enniskillen. (Deaths in those years are pay to view on the GRONI site).

This is likely the family in the 1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Laragh/Clonbuniagh/1365306/

1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Laragh/Clonbunniagh/517012/

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1908/10063/5659974.pdf

Probate abstracts:

Probate of the Will of William Tubman late of Clonbunnigh County Fermanagh Farmer who died 21 July 1899 granted at Armagh to Robert Montgomery Farmer.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.../deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05789/4637147.pdf


Tubman Lena of Clonbunniagh Culkey P.O. county Fermanagh widow died 21 March 1954 Probate Londonderry 2 July to Elena Elliott married woman. Effects £263 0s. 11d.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Elwyn.

I have some credits on GRONI.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
HO107 Piece 1546 Folio 291 Page 39
Civil Parish: St Mary Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Whitechapel
Sub-RD: Goodsman Fields
ED: 1n
No of Schedule: 100
Address: 6 Everard Pl
Henry Tubman Head Mar 28 Police Constable Ireland
Mary Ann Tubman Wife Mar 23 - Ireland
William Henry Tubman Son 4 London Middlesex
Eliza Jane Tubman Dau 2 London Middlesex

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm off to the local library that opens in 17 min.

 

[Elwyn]

Marriage here for William Tubman to Sophia Kee in 1854 in parish of Aghavea, Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh. His father was Henry. So William is your Henry’s brother.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1853/09453/5425107.pdf

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Elwyn.

The shipping record and two births on GRO have mother's name as Cranston.

TUBMAN, ELIZA JANE - CRANSTON
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 02 Page 624

I can't find a marriage in England that would fit.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a birth in England for Rebecca to check mmn. Same parents listed for all three - Henry & Maria on board.

William 8
Andrew 3
Rebecca Inft

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a death for a Mary Cranston that would fit.

 

[DaveHam9]

I have the details of the two deaths from GRONI.

It does not allow a screen capture so the word looked like Clonbunnagh ??

Co. Fermanagh → Magheraboy → Rossorry Civil Parish → Ely Electoral Division → Cloghanagh

 

[Elwyn]

I have the details of the two deaths from GRONI.

It does not allow a screen capture so the word looked like Clonbunnagh ??

Co. Fermanagh → Magheraboy → Rossorry Civil Parish → Ely Electoral Division → Cloghanagh

The standardized spelling of the townland is Clonbunniagh but spelling does vary. That’s the townland name in Griffiths and you’ll see it in the probate abstracts and in the 2 censuses I sent you. So it’s definitely the correct death.

I wondered if Mary McKee had died and he had remarried. Mary McKee was single, so that rules out her being a widow with a different maiden name. She lived in Drumadonnell where her father John was a farmer. He’s in Griffiths on plot 26. So she came from Co Down, not Co Louth, so unless someone was fibbing (for reasons I couldn’t begin to suggest) her details don’t match the lady who arrived in Australia at all. Father’s name isn’t right either. Given that they had a child in 1849, there isn’t really enough time to have remarried. Not sure what was going on there.

I notice that son Andrew was born in Rossory c 1852. You could get someone to search for his baptism. Methodists in Ireland at that time didn’t all do their own baptisms and marriages. Many were still using the Church of Ireland for that. It’s complicated but basically they didn’t want to split from the Church of Ireland. (Wesley’s original idea was that Methodism would supplement the Church of England/Ireland and he did not want it to become a separate denomination). Some Wesleyans were doing their own baptisms in the 1850s but many other Methodists were not. Rossory Church of Ireland has records from 1796. There are several Methodist Meeting houses around Rossory but the only one with any records for the 1850s is Enniskillen Wesleyan Methodists. Their records start in 1823. Copies of both sets of records in PRONI.

I looked for a death for Mary Cranston too without success, but if she died between 1855 and 1863 there wouldn’t be a record.

I think you have a bit of a mystery there.

 

[DaveHam9]

Many thanks Elwyn.

Shipping records are usually very reliable re parents. Clearly says Henry and Mary Cranston.

 

[DaveHam9]

I've been searching for Cranston and found this but no help.

Miss Susanna CRANSTON . Donaghcloney regd. Waringstown; wife of James Kee; mother of Ann Eliza b. 1869

 

[DaveHam9]

11 Jan 1876 TUBMAN Andrew Full Widower Draper High Street, Enniskillen Town, Co Fermanagh GIRLING Jane Full Spinster Not Given High Street, Enniskillen Town, Co Fermanagh Henry Tubman Farmer Samuel Girling Gardener Andrew Trimble & Henrietta Elizabeth Trimble

19 Oct 1910 MORRISON William Full Bachelor Labourer Wellington Place, Enniskillen Town, Co Fermanagh TUBMAN Mary Jane Full Spinster Servant Sedan Terrace, Enniskillen Town, Co Fermanagh William Morrison Labourer Not Given Not Given James Morrison & Mary Snow?

 

[Elwyn]

No-one named Cranston in Co Louth in Griffiths c 1860, nor in the 1901 census of the county.

But here’s something odd to add to the confusion, a marriage in Louth between Henry Tupman (sic) and Marianne Cranston in 1845. He was a schoolmaster in Stephenstown. His father’s name Henry, farmer, which fits. Her father’s name Alexander which doesn’t fit.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1845/09292/5364001.pdf


There was an Alexander Cranston farming in Drumard, parish of Tullyniskan in Tyrone in the 1826 tithe applotment records. That seems to give the Cranston Tyrone connection suggested by the migration record:

http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-tullyniskan.php

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Elwyn.

I can't find any death notice or obituary in Sydney papers for Maria in 1865. I also have not found her burial. She is not with Henry in Gore Hill.

 

[DaveHam9]

ANDREW TUBMAN
Date of Death 1889
Group Registration ID 6170420
SR District/Reg Area Enniskillen
Deceased Age at Death 75

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.../deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06133/4751630.pdf